From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ELPA security Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:23:00 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <8738zf70ep.fsf@riseup.net> <871uejlbm1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k3rrr31g.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <874nium8h0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zk0ljaub.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wqvng299.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ip77y2s9.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <871u815wkz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371453913 31423 80.91.229.3 (17 Jun 2013 07:25:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 07:25:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 17 09:25:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UoToP-0007pX-79 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:25:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UoToO-0005ZU-QW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:25:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UoToK-0005Yy-M3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:25:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UoToJ-0007ui-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50275) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UoToJ-0007uS-E9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 03:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UoToF-0007XQ-PB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from 80.203.78.216 ([80.203.78.216]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:25:03 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 80.203.78.216 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:25:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.203.78.216 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8sF5Dqay/+KPo+ws5PutC60xhNQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160493 Archived-At: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:56:28 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: SJT> Stefan Monnier writes: >> And maybe automatically eliminate an archive from that "not signed" >> list if we ever find a signature in it. SJT> If this is about security rather than adding to your BrightShinyThings SJT> collection, It's ALWAYS about bright-shiny-things, programmers are magpies :) SJT> you should have a signed-and-verified-and-checked-for- SJT> expired-or-revoked-on-$DATE list, and eliminate any packages from SJT> the list if they fail any of the hyphenated conditions. SJT> And of course you probably want $DATE to change frequently. SJT> And the list should be signed.... I'd rather not build a certificate infrastructure ourselves. CRLs are especially tricky. Trusting a maintainer signature at the archive level and verifying it for each package when it's downloaded seems like a good compromise for Emacs. Ted