From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:39:36 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhb82qxc.fsf@gmail.com> <87oag4jk74.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444714814 18269 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2015 05:40:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:40:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 07:40:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlsJl-0008PY-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 07:40:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlsJk-00065y-4g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38585) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlsJL-00064W-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:39:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlsJI-0001jn-KZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:39:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]:33065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlsJI-0001jh-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:39:40 -0400 Original-Received: by pabrc13 with SMTP id rc13so10344132pab.0 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:39:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=+gDcgR41iw9xig+QyBI27HaAd7k3SiDkbNdy0llSMlU=; b=zF0en1ETX7G/KulLaiC3/Dg7Jf3kAa7O3gXvs7tbXJ1w9B3gl7VLg1MvQCd8tjbQuS 92D2ckP1Tnej5ICYgKn5xhRZVyHFXllop89FwaAY9FvRV5msKfC0R1JCzLF/c5AUzaSl URtuaM6dKJgNWNAWsS+trb68W0V8JUTtaAJLwYIwaY4GMi55CW8E8rlPLw0BIFMRez1n 19BmirD6a6sci3e1A69G3fzHvF4Y5+ifWCeK82CQyuSC2EejuvT3AbGXhW+k7q6PDum0 Q9sp9WWElYedfik3inTa4Y2xfA1k+Fxem3s0IRPa6CvyAg1xuoq79PDY71wVUKGRs/vj 9prA== X-Received: by 10.66.100.164 with SMTP id ez4mr1545529pab.141.1444714779804; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id tk4sm1310510pab.45.2015.10.12.22.39.38 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4F875F2C31B7; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:39:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Ken Raeburn's message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:28:45 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191428 Archived-At: >>>>> Ken Raeburn writes: >> The main reason I stopped is that it didn't help performance enough. The >> slowness imposed by constantly looking up symbol names at global scope, due >> to dynamic binding, dominated the profiling results. > Do you think the introduction of lexical binding support changes the balance > much? (Or was your work after lexical binding was added?) I think it should really help performance, but I haven't measured yet. John