From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:29:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507930323 32283 195.159.176.226 (13 Oct 2017 21:32:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 21:32:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/26.0 (darwin) Cc: rswgnu@gmail.com, emacs-devel To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 13 23:31:57 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e37Yh-0007bK-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 23:31:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51985 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e37Yo-0000rr-Nx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60667) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e37Xu-0000q6-Lg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:31:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e37Xp-0003u8-ML for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e37Xe-0003ok-RS; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]:51891) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e37Xe-0005CJ-IX; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D666020FFC; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:30:49 -0400 X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9346124737; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A571F9AB800A; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:30:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:41:30 -0700") Mail-Followup-To: Radon Rosborough , rswgnu@gmail.com, emacs-devel X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219466 Archived-At: >>>>> "RR" == Radon Rosborough writes: RR> In fact, with this patch, you don't even need to have any RR> package-related code at all in your init-file: not even RR> `package-initialize'. Packages can be installed, and they will "just RR> work", including if customizations are them are blindly pasted into RR> the regular init file. And if I never use packages, I'll never have this second file, right? Because right now, every once in a while, I find (package-initialize) getting inserted into my init.el, even though I never once have used packages. Still haven't figured out what's doing that. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2