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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250812 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:04:30 -0400, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel said: Cl=C3=A9ment> On 18/05/2020 12.36, Robert Pluim wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 18 May 2020 16:25:45 +0300, Dmitry Gutov said: >>=20 Dmitry> On 18.05.2020 16:16, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel wrote: >> >> On 18/05/2020 07.33, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> >>> IIRC US and German citizens can sign the copyright assignment >> >>> electronically (no snail mail involved). Citizens of other >> >>> countries can't do that yet. >> >> Thankfully, things have improved since >> >> then:https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsf-now-offering-paperle= ss-option-for-all-copyright-assignments >> >>=20 >>=20 Dmitry> Ooh, that's a good news, then. My info was seriously out of dat= e. >>=20 >> This is not what I=CA=BCd call 'electronic signing'. You print the f= orm, >> sign it with a pen, scan it, and email it. Someone mentioned using P= GP >> to do the signing, now that would be electronic signing. Cl=C3=A9ment> Do you know that this is currently not possible? I know P= GP is Cl=C3=A9ment> possible for people in the US, at least, and has been for= a long time. I don=CA=BCt know one way or the other. We could ask the FSF, I suppose. Robert