From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [sdl.web@gmail.com: misbehaviour of outline-backward-same-level] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:52:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874pnk1ytk.fsf@ambire.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176454382 2233 80.91.229.12 (13 Apr 2007 08:53:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:53:02 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 13 10:52:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HcHWQ-0002Lv-KC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:52:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HcHae-0007rT-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HcHaZ-0007km-73 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HcHaW-0007a9-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HcHaW-0007Y4-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HcHWE-0005uT-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:52:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HcHVx-0004Da-RH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:52:17 +0200 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:52:17 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:52:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAG1BMVEUAAAA9Cgm3Hx1WWFWA gn+WmJWsrqv4+vcCAwCRl2MkAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAAAYoA AAGKATOXMFgAAAAHdElNRQfXAQwDNR+ZJmElAAABIklEQVQoz22SPW+DQAyGWUq65qasd9PNUSX4 AZHK2C1rJy5jpDS4IwRVup9dn7GNafpKIPPgzztXFSujqq1eM2n8h22oMkvxI/i9C97kRfMRUN55 dS3BrsAwBXUtMLAO4lryh8kTjOxKpQNniNxAgZOEe4bZwsDTFhKdqZRLNII4OQNHhEuq/RMkm6Cj TnnEA/fk0BorcYn5qA3oaeAxbaBOLrX+9G48NZ2Fzc2tzDM8Q+tMypEOqYHh8mAWaaK3U/cDMOT5 aMZMABgPXc7zPMs1A8DXO756GFJ/4fMEq47hTsAdn5avoxZ4ywl0c2w4Flu2Ybeyb3S+EqxX2DYA H8veJGEDTnHnrXvRaPyt+2kSfK6rfBZ2tUtfP/mR+pR6sX8BUZ/cDV7tvkoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: No Gnus v0.6, Emacs/23.0.0.10 (2007-04-11), Fedora 6 gnu/linux Cancel-Lock: sha1:D1iU4CfBuMoDxjidwYaOVwBSECs= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69376 Archived-At: ----- Me (2007-04-13) wrote:----- >> since there is no superior level for the top-level, the current >> behavior seems reasonable. it is analogous to what happens when you >> hold down `C-M-a' in ~/.emacs; it is coherent in that respect for the >> general "go backward before first top-level" case. i see no need to >> change it. To see the consistency, compare: | elisp | outline | |-------+---------| | C-M-a | C-c C-p | | C-M-e | C-c C-n | So now I believe... > However, C-M-e can then move back to the defun while C-c C-f > ('outline-forward-same-level') won't, i.e. users are trapped in the > area above the first heading. > > So it needs fixing, one way or the other. But for consistency, fixing > C-c C-f is acceptable also. the behavior with Chong's patch is more correct. -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)