From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display problems with non-ascii characters Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:20:22 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223400064 3557 80.91.229.12 (7 Oct 2008 17:21:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:21:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 07 19:21:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KnGFf-0003p2-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:21:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KnGEb-00012H-4A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:20:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KnGEX-000128-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:20:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KnGEW-00011o-7r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:20:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52639 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KnGEW-00011l-2s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:20:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail2.sha-bang.de ([78.47.120.114]:1903 helo=mail.sha-bang.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KnGEV-0008Rm-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:20:27 -0400 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdslcn159.osnanet.de [89.166.141.159]) by mail.sha-bang.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E68560; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:20:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Sha Bang MUA v.0711184.68) ID 1KnGER-00021B-95; Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:20:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:13:35 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104393 Archived-At: Kenichi Handa wrote: > In article , Sascha Wilde writes: > >> Emacs 23 CVS head, --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid > >> To reproduce: > >> ; I use the font "terminus" http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/ included in >> ; many GNU/Linux Distributions, for example Debian > > I've just installed the debian package xfonts-terminus, and > followed what you did. > >> 1. emacs -Q > >> 2. ; Type some German umlauts in *scratch*: >> =C4=D6=DC=DF=E4=F6=FC > >> 3. ; evaluate: >> (set-face-font 'default "terminus 12") >> ; everything looks fine, but the umlauts disappeared and when you >> ; move the text cursor above them even the cursor disappears. > > This bug doesn't happen for me.=20 Stange enough: for me too (nightly cvs builds, so this is no more the same CVS head), but in normal use the problem is still there... Indeed this is a very annoying heisen-bug: I see the same symptoms under varying conditions all the time, but its hard to get a reproduction receipt. A co-worker of mine has the same problems with a different font -- both fonts have in common, that they are x11 bitmap fonts. Maybe the used toolkit is a factor two? This is with lucid (haven't tested gtk2)... > The font used for those German letters is: > x:-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1 (#xC4) >> 4. ; evaluate: >> (set-face-font 'default "terminus 11") >> ; the umlauts reappear. > > This doesn't change the font for me. Which font is used in > your case in 3 and 4? For 3 (Terminus 12): x:-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1=20 and for 4 (Terminus 11): x:-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1 cheers sascha --=20 Sascha Wilde "Structure is _nothing_ if it is all you got. Skeletons _spook_ people if thwy try to walk around on their own. I really wonder why XML does not." -- Erik Naggum in comp.lang.lisp