From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: CHENG Gao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Switching to bzr: what Emacs developers should know? Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:42:04 +0800 Organization: cyberhut.org Message-ID: References: <874osi6zpe.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <28c656e20908081151h55a4b566v4cfc7c49c5ca2a37@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249822623 22273 80.91.229.12 (9 Aug 2009 12:57:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:57:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 09 14:56:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ma7xI-0002QH-AK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:56:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33640 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ma7xH-00022v-SN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ma7xD-00022g-Lx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ma7x8-00021t-86 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54080 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ma7x8-00021q-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:56:46 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:42064 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ma7x7-0000dc-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:56:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ma7x3-00008h-Tr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:56:42 +0000 Original-Received: from 122.192.41.178 ([122.192.41.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:56:41 +0000 Original-Received: from chenggao by 122.192.41.178 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:56:41 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 54 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.192.41.178 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dMtEdK7KbpaD5oo+3Nd+G+U+3qI= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113849 Archived-At: *On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:51:31 +0200 * Also sprach B Smith-Mannschott : > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 18:24, Bastien wrote: >> Can someone describe the bzr workflow for Emacs developers? > > Presumably, you've seen this, yes?: > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrForEmacsDevs Thank you for the info. It's great as a starter guide. I am trying to follow it to set up using unofficial Emacs bzr repo at http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/. But to be honest, it's fairly painful. On Aug. 1 I did "bzr branch", and I recorded the result as below: ,---- | $ time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/ emacs | Branched 95203 revision(s). | | real 193m58.965s | user 6m58.284s | sys 1m12.954s `---- I just did "bzr pull" and found it's fairly slow. I did not time it. Now I am following the above mentioned BzrForEmacsDevs guide to make a local dev branch. Very slow. I am using Bzr 1.17 on MacOSX. > >> Will the switch to bzr affect the way upstream packages like Gnus >> or Org are integrated in Emacs development? >> >> Would there be any advantage of switching to bzr for these packages? > > Well, the wiki page currently only says: > > [quote] > Merging Upstream Packages (e.g., Gnus) Into Emacs With Bazaar > > TODO: TBD (but frankly, this should be easy, as it fits perfectly with > the DVCS/Bazaar model anyway) > [/quote] > > // ben > > >