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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Question regarding Lisp_Object representation of symbols
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 09:56:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2msrbg2m6.fsf@Pro.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87msrbzr9v.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 06 Mar 2024 16:41:16 +0800")

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

> Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> - Does someone remember the reasons why this has been done?
>
> To speed up comparisons between objects and Qnil, I think.
>
>> - Is there something that relies on this? Maybe something that
>>   relies on 0x0 being a valid Lisp_Object?
>
> Yes, in the many places where memset/memclear is invoked to initialize
> Lisp_Object fields or variables, for instance.  It's supposed to be the
> case that these instances are marked with NIL_IS_ZERO for easy locating
> if the representation of Qnil is ever to be changed, but that convention
> is not observed in practice, or is actively circumvented, as by callers
> of memclear, which defeat the purpose of that marker by calling this one
> of its bearers to initialize a variety of structures that may or may not
> comprise only Lisp_Objects, greatly inflating the number of callers that
> must be examined before such a change in object representation.

Thank you very much, that was really helpful!



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-06  6:48 Question regarding Lisp_Object representation of symbols Gerd Möllmann
2024-03-06  8:41 ` Po Lu
2024-03-06  8:56   ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-03-06 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-06 20:32   ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-07  4:28     ` Gerd Möllmann

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