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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327415 Archived-At: Pip Cet writes: >> In mainline... (pondering to put a smiley). > > I'll throw Zig in and run away quickly. (Zig would be fine, weren't it for the future plans of its inventor, which irritated me enough that I didn't try it in earnest.) > >> But something else: Given what I now believe, I think I want to >> understand better (a bit) why everything appears to work just fine on >> macOS, with signals. Could you perhaps check if I'm off? MacOS only. > > Do we know that? Well, that it "appears to..." I know for fact :-). It never happened for me. But please see my other mails. > I think macOS doesn't use signals as heavily as other platforms do, > and I don't know how SIGPROF is handled on that platform, but I would > not be surprised if that or SIGALRM require the signal checking thing > on macOS, too. SIGPROF and SIGLARM are signals in macOS. Only the hardware faults are not, like EXC_BAD_ACCESS and the float exceptions. Others I don't remember ATM.