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From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>
Cc: thomas@intevation.de, Bill Wohler <wohler@newt.com>,
	Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Switching to Subversion
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:38:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2lkmfed2x.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85psbrvgrt.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon\, 13 Nov 2006 10\:26\:46 +0100")

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:

> Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
>
>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> In my opinion, any SCM system that is not fully supported by a
>>> stock Emacs 22 on all major operating systems where Emacs runs on
>>> is not acceptable for managing Emacs 23.
>>
>> But on the other hand: Emacs Developers will be using the
>> development version anyway, so integrating mercurial support shortly
>> after the release should be sufficient.
>
> Disagree.  Shortly after the release, development versions can be
> expected to be hosed temporarily, and the only Emacs version one can
> depend on to work reliably is the last released one.
>
> If you can't work the SCM from a _stable_ version of Emacs, it is a
> mess to get back on track.

Mercurial (respectively the supporting modes) does work with Emacs 22,
it's just that they aren't part of the stock distribution yet.  If
it is really essential that the SCM support for a potential new system
is part of the current release (which I doubt), we should try to get
it in before the release.

The most important point is: we shouldn't base a decision for or
against a new SCM on that question, especially not when there _is_
support for Emacs available and the supporting modes are just not part
of Emacs yet.

In fact, at this point of time there is no support for most free
distributed SCMs (git, bazar, bazar ng, darcs, monotone, mercurial
...) in stock Emacs, it would be a big loss if this would be a reason
to rule out all of them.

cheers
sascha
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-13 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-04 11:40 CVS commits and logs Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 12:53   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 13:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 13:44       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 13:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-04 14:37           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 16:06             ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-04 22:30               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-05 19:22               ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05  7:08         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05 21:22           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-04 22:28   ` Jason Rumney
2006-11-05  6:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-05  7:08 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-05 23:15 ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-06  2:30   ` Miles Bader
2006-11-06 16:08     ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-06 19:38       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-07 16:47         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-07 22:44           ` Miles Bader
2006-11-09  0:53             ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-09  4:47               ` Miles Bader
2006-11-09  6:01                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-11  2:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-11  3:24                   ` Miles Bader
2006-11-11 10:03                     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-11-11 12:51                       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-11 17:00                         ` Switching to Subversion (was: CVS commits and logs) Bill Wohler
2006-11-11 20:00                           ` Switching to Subversion Romain Francoise
2006-11-12  1:20                             ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-12 11:26                               ` Romain Francoise
2006-11-12 21:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-12 21:20                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-12 21:49                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 22:45                                   ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:17                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 23:29                                       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:40                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 23:59                                           ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  8:02                                         ` stephen
2006-11-13 12:38                                           ` Bruce Stephens
2006-11-13 20:26                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 21:39                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 22:43                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-12 23:22                                     ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:37                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-12 23:54                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12 23:58                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  0:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  1:20                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 16:26                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-13 16:53                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 16:59                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 20:13                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-14  4:50                                                       ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-14  6:49                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-27 21:42                                                       ` Jari Aalto
2006-11-28  4:52                                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-28 12:06                                                           ` Jari Aalto
2006-11-13  8:41                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13  8:50                                         ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13  8:59                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  9:11                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13  9:26                                             ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13  9:53                                               ` dhruva
2006-11-13 10:55                                                 ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-28 11:29                                                 ` Jari Aalto
2006-11-13 12:38                                               ` Sascha Wilde [this message]
2006-11-13 12:40                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-14  2:27                                                   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2006-11-13 12:55                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13 14:49                                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 14:57                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  8:51                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 11:43                                           ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-13 12:31                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 13:16                                             ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 13:35                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13 13:54                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-11-13 14:08                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-14  3:53                                                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-13 14:46                                               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 22:31                                                 ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 22:44                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-14  6:38                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-11-13 11:20                                       ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-13 13:11                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 14:51                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2006-11-13 16:55                                           ` Thomas Arendsen Hein
2006-11-13 22:37                                             ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13 20:15                                       ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-14  2:49                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  8:47                                   ` joakim
2006-11-13  8:56                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-11-13  9:05                                       ` joakim
2006-11-14  4:55                                     ` Bill Wohler
2006-11-13 20:15                                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-14  1:53                                 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2006-11-14  2:10                                   ` Masatake YAMATO
2006-11-14  3:05                                   ` Eric Hanchrow
2006-11-14  3:23                                     ` Miles Bader
2006-11-12  5:14                     ` CVS commits and logs Richard Stallman
2006-11-12  9:45                       ` Miles Bader
2006-11-13  9:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-11-07 18:07       ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-07 20:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-11-08  1:50           ` Miles Bader
2006-11-11  9:43             ` Reiner Steib
2006-11-06  4:21   ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-14 20:16 Switching to Subversion Jim Blandy

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