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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dz8sm5369145pab.19.2016.01.21.17.54.53 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:54:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A6BD6125651D2; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:54:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83zivy7jq5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:36:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:198548 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The problem looks bad, but it doesn't seem like it bothers a lot of people > That's because not a lot of people got exposed to the problem yet. They will > once v25.1 hits the street. Hi Dmitry, Eli has made points similar to this several times now. Please consider that any feeling you have about "what people think" about this feature is invalid right now, because there is close to zero experience with xref and project. Silence from the people on this list should not be taken to mean anything, at least as far as judgments about the user interface are concerned. I just wanted to emphasize this, because I feel the point is not hitting home yet. Eli is, in a sense, one of your first real users, and so the experiences he's having right now are the ones to pay attention to. Thanks, -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2