From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:37 -0800 Message-ID: References: <83egc8qzjh.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc7evu3.fsf@gnus.org> <83io1jpt4u.fsf@gnu.org> <87povqhj25.fsf@gnus.org> <87povqe5tr.fsf@gnus.org> <87ziuta4l4.fsf@gnus.org> <87y4adzcia.fsf@gnus.org> <83twl0k1k5.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2lvi99c.fsf@gnu.org> <83oab6gfiw.fsf@gnu.org> <878u29x8vl.fsf@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: John Wiegley NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456440251 9718 80.91.229.3 (25 Feb 2016 22:44:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, Eli Zaretskii , lokedhs@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 25 23:44:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4de-0000rm-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 23:44:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4dd-0005FL-R8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:44:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4dP-0005FF-De for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:43:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4dO-00005w-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:43:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]:34946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ4dJ-000059-9p; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:43:41 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x231.google.com with SMTP id ho8so40546034pac.2; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:reply-to:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VLe3fuWS0j5Yf3XFrPyqWuUANttC7LPZnHsQsyLfvZ0=; b=RVhcSfxM+Mz2nOs0y9IqcpCLyJJMYyTfMA9goaet14yezi2CY66RuFq7HQ5dPc1aEI hbL150y1DcmJ/hweZPpsTV4ecHUt0oSQX3Q2TTCFWz+2waepsCdHUQOo3H5DjLaSN/OG OrDlVJZcTRkV1Hv9SsvRIEpeQ8e/EnueOWKtIl/1UnUOxANlNZx7oMEIGEp6fhVSZuzP SjGKEVE30MzHqOhI0tG0qE5rEFR+PEMPTfb7ib80BHWcj5lMhGhhubP/Ov21kOaygRqH DkNfW2L1FZRhv5EgyHP4/ZMg0P42UibwoOaoUGvwQhjrIrSpjD2q2VeTijx1sMS5qC+E 9eGA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:reply-to:mail-followup-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VLe3fuWS0j5Yf3XFrPyqWuUANttC7LPZnHsQsyLfvZ0=; b=Mj+6CQw6GG4Jx1UniRI5UYB/XzZibDwVuH/OvduNoHBxbCo5t7Os3VThCKGVVPxIGf KS5zD7rWterhPT6HmN3Zm9z4IO0gGbIt/cYUgdaUv6TDRoXbRBgaZlcOZ5ZN0Q0Axc3d RA2PzymGE47AUAF1QA7y1ux20nIuzeMsOma/ZnBAga/uFsFZYfgTK+sz79ZCTNLXhTVP clZtTuAMu7RvNWKESLPv/1rogw4kskSr3El/HE++LXD7LkU738Sote36s5F1ldzhGHOq 54ONwSJZbIhPdbrL3kTup1fxH4fPzxQYbIlxVLKghTXoSlNeHJW7cdDwiebYP8Nr/jGS SwwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQO860Ekd6cBhf12KyipigxjBqKGRl6wyR4Vj1uC3mWKQF13/R+2jEVRgwFNtVg9A== X-Received: by 10.66.160.7 with SMTP id xg7mr65797650pab.10.1456440220405; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q8sm14429218pfa.70.2016.02.25.14.43.39 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 853531319B3C6; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:43:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878u29x8vl.fsf@fastmail.fm> (Joost Kremers's message of "Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:38:38 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Joost Kremers , rms@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , lokedhs@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200683 Archived-At: >>>>> Joost Kremers writes: > On Thu, Feb 25 2016, Richard Stallman wrote: >> If it happens that all languages agree about =C3=A1, that won't be a pro= blem. > I doubt that's the case. Though I don't actually speak the language, I > suspect that in Icelandic a and =C3=A1 are considered different letters. = The > former is pronounced [a], the latter [au=CC=AF]. Similar considerations a= pply to > all the vowels e/=C3=A9, i/=C3=AD, o/=C3=B3, u/=C3=BA and y/=C3=BD. I'd like to ask at this point that this discussion move to Emacs Tangents, = as it is not approaching anything in the way of a technical consensus. Sub-threads addressing specific, concrete issues are welcome on this list; = but the general discussion happening here is only creating volume without resul= t. Thank you, --=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2