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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310669 Archived-At: On Sun, Sep 17 2023, Gerd M=C3=B6llmann wrote: > Something like that could be an inspiration for a persisten buffer-text > implementation, which I think would be a prerequisite for a parallel > redisplay. (I don't believe in the idea of a snapshort model for parallel > redisplay =07anymore). This would not solve overlays, text properties > and what not, of course. Out of curiosity: has somebody tried to vectorize the display code? I don't know the details, but very abstractly speaking there seems to be an iterator that loops over the characters in a buffer and computes various things as it goes along. Could some of those computations be done on vectors, of say 8, characters? Helmut