From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog and the release branch Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 11:15:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56538D97.80905@cs.ucla.edu> <87bnakgwvq.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <877fl7lbjk.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83610rz7pq.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4dkjwpn.fsf@yagnesh.org> <83mvtzuclk.fsf@gnu.org> <87bnaepckp.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <83oaeepbhi.fsf@gnu.org> <877fl2pagx.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448738167 1045 80.91.229.3 (28 Nov 2015 19:16:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 19:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hi@yagnesh.org, Eli Zaretskii , eggert@cs.ucla.edu, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 20:16:03 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a2kyY-0000zF-SL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 20:16:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33481 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2kyc-0004UC-Dp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:16:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46099) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2kyM-0004Qm-2v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:15:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2kyL-0006wF-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:15:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]:35375) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2kyH-0006vo-4w; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 14:15:45 -0500 Original-Received: by pacej9 with SMTP id ej9so142775952pac.2; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 11:15:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=w4mMgaQpj0Lox7F1mT9mnOcirhNXu6aB2rQCE3POGiw=; b=s11XoDglMT9F1xuuC16FOLbtLPPkbdYWLiwWoCN91n7sRAk00n/y7qITDtRUsQ5il+ rHAfiMixGEj+BpbE/nW/gEwpyjWPROHAo0hwbAFtj8QcCucVkG+xWoanCFYHdytuUaRf 2etBDxcaeGUoGrfjD0BTBKxAhZzXuZjg1WU4RfBWoOocbzC4HOK9qN5EWmWVV3UjoFZy t6lxnTVjFg+IvPqezLH1YdXUNygTdD2BombUITnlPcD0TOnVm9buc6T42vKyR6lJjigz HWOLyZ5P0cbyRfNUnKrCT1OraJIXbBmh7cGF7/YyQbHlLhr814Fp4fAKATCR60ASpQKS lkzg== X-Received: by 10.98.68.201 with SMTP id m70mr58363597pfi.101.1448738144408; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 11:15:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e25sm41505339pfb.64.2015.11.28.11.15.42 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 28 Nov 2015 11:15:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D8D8810B96ED3; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 11:15:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877fl2pagx.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> (David Engster's message of "Sat, 28 Nov 2015 13:36:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: David Engster , Eli Zaretskii , hi@yagnesh.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195475 Archived-At: >>>>> David Engster writes: >>> If someone is volunteering to actually set this up and deal with the >>> aftermath of people struggling with 'git notes', then yes. >> >> Could you tell what that "struggling" entails? I never used Git >> notes, so I don't know what difficulties and gotchas this could >> present. > See above: no support in plain Emacs, so people would have to do it via CLI > or some other means. And last I checked, which admittedly was years ago, > notes were poorly supported by git. Notes are a bit similar to tags, meaning > you have to explicitly push to the 'refs/tags' refspec. Fortunately, you > don't have to know that, because 'git push' has the '--tags' switch which > does that automatically. But there's no such switch for notes, so you have > to explicitly push to 'refs/notes'. It even gets more weird when you want to > 'fetch' notes, which requires you to say something like I've tried using Git notes in a real setting before, and they are indeed a pain, requiring expertise on the part of everyone to get it right. They are great for attaching local notes to commits, like the output from build logs and tests, for future reference. But they are somewhat poor in a collaborative setting. Or, they were the last time I tried to use them. John