From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Face to face Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:04:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <83lglow4zv.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1504955116 13128 195.159.176.226 (9 Sep 2017 11:05:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 11:05:16 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130016 (Ma Gnus v0.16) Emacs/25.2.50 (darwin) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 09 13:05:12 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dqdZQ-0002ca-0M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 13:05:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48979 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqdZT-0006pW-T0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:05:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqdYo-0006p4-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqdYn-0006x2-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]:45474) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqdYj-0006vA-It; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 07:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id f199so15885929wme.0; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 04:04:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=xep7Fn9Dh/21dN/7z/F47Zr3UkfA/q2HydhiVVTNf/k=; b=f9m8enRboaK1oaBp/F4dz0xx7YC69aiDJwkyCapzP0jQxFyBsMgBoBNuP0TbO8jdMh 94HT6HPLs5Dsl/q2GABu5nGmBGSzk/Xx0dZygo9f4Yy3oDf7ZvwhIyov9GNNsnJ48k4Y NJBG3XZSBYKcOgfJ+ZoNTPxymStwrE70r0WH+rtORIy8dmiY+RmsNpXDPuF7kxT7mU/o wtTALqUjChnsk664n/IwY/Ohm2wvDzt0wnmws/gKDtOFjniCrHL2vWRtmMB+iaQXyQER 7eEAv4SGKg+1DylzsD8Ds8dVzOWQYPfmJ/b1c5Kdnosco8uTZgLmakPcXWNv1N9/FTzt NuNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=xep7Fn9Dh/21dN/7z/F47Zr3UkfA/q2HydhiVVTNf/k=; b=MNuurm2PG50Z7TVrHrWnjXCoNAgHU5m5WQrC0IACu3VlHar4KDfcXCNhhHUTpG1Xyf rpNLiyVGgARm7qbwOQD9N9aQERzXQgJfFUfIMCZ9MgW6QhFTPWaPgA4XH3FTUYexyJAY lJS5Wn2u3aFUV3pvlLkLmjvEbI8lWAheKNzNXH5QyXXzHSQ5aoqPfKJs/6IFakyaS++I ezqh0m4GE6iWuYYvD8Pwk7HjrIy3mktFiwi0AwNpoY8CfQeOVdgi6bIScg/I4kTR6S4F qaPBj8dK+zwmr0IxjfL9ikElSIgLuERfHlC/r8dNJStn3cesFQQuq2wbPPDKecSUsf9o Bl9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjOfP/a4RAVM68q9aWGhMncJITkXWItBkz5h3YAGP6XeG5xWwQg vZs2BSUoeZt9yO0sbaE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBARkZLbFV4WoFISZwD0f6mSdDWWijJ1DXNnrR3xr1U+aVP3UipRxzDBM/wU08C+oXwyG6zqA== X-Received: by 10.28.60.8 with SMTP id j8mr3434940wma.16.1504955060103; Sat, 09 Sep 2017 04:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Hermes.local (client-7-191.visitor-network.oxuni.org.uk. [192.76.7.191]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f188sm5175619wme.21.2017.09.09.04.04.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Sep 2017 04:04:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Hermes.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B584F2F19A6C; Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:04:17 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <83lglow4zv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 09 Sep 2017 13:17:24 +0300") Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218056 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > I will not willingly come to the US any time soon, not as long as the > ridiculous TSA regulations are in place. My US visa (which was "indefinite") > was revoked, and I have no plans renewing it any time soon, not if I can > help that. This is a very good point. Even my Iranian wife was worried about coming to visit me in Paris next week, wondering if she could even come back home. So given tensions within the US toward international visitors, maybe a first meeting in, say, Montreal would be a better idea. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2