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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r12sm9251937pfd.187.2017.09.24.21.23.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Sep 2017 21:23:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 37910906A5E9; Sun, 24 Sep 2017 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:08:29 -0700") Mail-Followup-To: Paul Eggert , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218764 Archived-At: >>>>> "PE" == Paul Eggert writes: PE> The main issue is whether text-quoting-style should be customizable, as PE> opposed to being a simple Lisp variable as it is now. Eli said "no", you PE> said "yes", and as I recall this issue was unresolved the last time it was PE> mentioned on this list. (I don't care, myself.) It will be customizable, this is decided, as Eli has told me he's OK with it. PE> 1. Whether the manual should recommend routinely let-binding PE> text-quoting-style, a style that Alan favors. I think it should recommend the PE> (message "%s" ...) PE> style that the Emacs source code itself uses, as this style is more flexible PE> and reliable. (I can give examples of why, if you care.) I think (message "%s") is both simpler and more future proof, since we may end up with other features that this could apply to. PE> 2. Alan wants the description of every affected function to have a big PE> paragraph about text quoting, whereas I prefer to replace those big PE> paragraphs with short blurbs that reference a single (new) section that PE> covers the issue in more detail than the big paragraphs would. References to a single elaborated paragraph will make for much easier maintenance of the documentation, so let's do that. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2