From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 22:17:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <86r3i39gm8.fsf@gmail.com> <4EE5D522-7CDE-4430-AC67-133DD628F843@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451715508 28304 80.91.229.3 (2 Jan 2016 06:18:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 06:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Random832 , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , emacs-devel To: Anders Lindgren Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 02 07:18:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFFW6-0005r9-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 07:18:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37579 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFFW5-0004wk-6h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 01:18:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFFW1-0004wM-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 01:18:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFFVy-00082f-AQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 01:18:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]:34415) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFFVy-00082b-53 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 01:18:10 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x235.google.com with SMTP id uo6so150022269pac.1 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 22:18:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=+zw/fQTrhpuGidP6yoDAqnT66kEhMr9P84lHfLOrcgo=; b=glI0h1HfRBuOu69sck+5XGPdhIYI746WwOYgqIe3C130liFXeKwHd1+Zlr1cED+4sw Stup4SCF8VgXW1Vp132tNvdUs9hzz1ICSYjOXuJSnJbeSZSDRZsbmJfVWqzb7T3LMJun ahKi7jb14YjRosOWAWj9BQLS00gVMeSSK+H/keAgHU2x2ni65atSlRQn92ZLmfCB8r+A KxPB7vA8EvR6l7o2w0GGNdc4LJ0DHY/MgoXnDpU2WXwRYQdarIad89O9NakLytFNHWJs 3q1Fw9OvHzSgT1XyCBPAiTVTZ3o7gg/qJKou3A4psyl5lSGuNrxyZZn6n+7M4qPUUrtH YGEg== X-Received: by 10.66.192.7 with SMTP id hc7mr112327295pac.48.1451715489583; Fri, 01 Jan 2016 22:18:09 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y85sm39515249pfi.52.2016.01.01.22.18.08 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Jan 2016 22:18:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3A1A111F9090F; Fri, 1 Jan 2016 22:18:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Anders Lindgren's message of "Sat, 2 Jan 2016 07:02:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Anders Lindgren , Random832 , emacs-devel , YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197338 Archived-At: >>>>> Anders Lindgren writes: > I've decided to let the question rest -- we clearly can't agree on a layout > that suits everybody and we're not allowed to make the change for Emacs 25.1 > anyway. I think it's unfortunate, since 1) the default configuration of > Emacs is unusable in large parts of the world and 2) the "ns" and the "mac" > implementation will now have different defaults. Since the "mac" implementation is coming in new, it should have the same default behavior as the "ns" port in the respect. It's easily configured otherwise, and having them be different would be a pointless disparity. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2