From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 14:29:38 -0800 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2nplmb.fsf@gnu.org> <83inr2oje6.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwuogfb.fsf@gnu.org> <878trydrbo.fsf@red-bean.com> <83a8cem1eq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480717826 20079 195.159.176.226 (2 Dec 2016 22:30:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 22:30:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) Cc: Karl Fogel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 02 23:30:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCwLR-0003xt-ST for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 23:30:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36806 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCwLU-0002Ma-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:30:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37833) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCwKy-0002LZ-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCwKx-0007aN-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::229]:35706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCwKt-0007ZJ-NE; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id i88so54498718pfk.2; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 14:29:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=r77p85wHLPMCAtYAmT/lOSUpZyeGXm+yLl7uN5Hjr48=; b=l5rF+TI2JETH086Edefs+wZ/si/t1tmY1MtsdD7fk+ZM2X+XEoUE2qcVvxYcSZ3Eir QAqhrO2a5WYQXUUVoWPGz+3XX5cKgXhcrxKvrQvZBlo2QdYlFxS2kkccaTobJv7YvziG bVyBxMoKU4p+JC0CpbjuHwSZCb0fazUaPObVoDqOcJLZ6VszYmn8n15wvwFMbI+AJs15 gz0r7DS0P9ieY3dwlZY302z5KkmLvpZUunrxmi6nIxZbOzxAKoiDQpQujQSMGEVYJbrw Cqw958ehumRGs12MIASouHa11dnkxMYBd6nPAI6B4FS+21nFIJW0J3JbdGg4c5j9Kbuc gYgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=r77p85wHLPMCAtYAmT/lOSUpZyeGXm+yLl7uN5Hjr48=; b=J93wISfzcJlgWIyAf4vnbSbzLrxtwYvZ9jUTzP5Uim+LqD92ai8v55pmKzynoLOPsw 5B2LgGCNIPVLon035a10KcICV9Z4qamEcjulbO1dyevLuCA9x7M2ItsSNYxI99wa7ABj 2YjPj9yBp9zoPn6YqU8xqvHIVY24yL5D9erfLADPUC64F5xzxYeLoshq9r1WvJ7/4tzf INshBbRMQIR7x074+HPxxIAv1wCe0+TvTEdL4TeO+BuX1r6cKmY27XH6QbZkBfMdaToW viCQ0e3fwudpDQinlIIxRCxZCCnbuwDd9Xza29DuHpoXedl6Z0VbGEnN0sWoQB52WKyi Px+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01D4nM70HoGY/KwQIbRowJ4tv5yeZ2J9qBvxY0/HIW0p0Q/GbH7FGzUkcraraAwFw== X-Received: by 10.84.140.133 with SMTP id 5mr98971121plt.76.1480717781657; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 14:29:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z9sm10010090pfd.29.2016.12.02.14.29.40 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Dec 2016 14:29:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4BD0F48800C0; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 14:29:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83a8cem1eq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 03 Dec 2016 00:06:21 +0200") Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , Karl Fogel , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209953 Archived-At: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: EZ> Thanks, but it isn't useful. Why? because, like John, you don't think that EZ> my opinion about the preferred solution to getting rid of unexec is right. Maybe I'm not understanding fully: I thought we all agreed that your preferred solution is the best one, provided it can be implemented. In the meantime, we have an interim measure available that is better than unexec. Since I haven't heard anyone suggest that we should stick with the portable dumper forever, I don't fully understand the strength of your objection. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2