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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: "Elias Mårtenson" <lokedhs@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mingde \(Matthew\) Zeng" <matthewzmd@gmail.com>,
	smartlitchi@gmail.com, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Default emacs init file location confusion
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 09:04:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2imlmjrw6.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADtN0W+UZ8JAOUjR61CXpjyeyGAkXb1cr6vXyt-09fvHQmATwQ@mail.gmail.com> ("Elias Mårtenson"'s message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2020 13:33:20 +0800")

>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 13:33:20 +0800, Elias Mårtenson <lokedhs@gmail.com> said:
    Elias> Having thought about it some more, I came up with this proposal: Emacs
    Elias> could check if both directories exist, and if so, provide an interactive
    Elias> choice for the user to pick which one to use. If the user don't want to
    Elias> have to answer this question every time Emacs starts up, they can delete
    Elias> one of the directories.

That seems like the worst of both worlds. Iʼd say the principle of
least surprise says that emacs should prefer ~/.emacs.d if neither of
two directories exist (which would end up creating it), and prefer
~/.config/emacs if that exists (but not create it), which allows
people who want to use the xdg stuff to do so easily. Concretely:

diff --git a/lisp/startup.el b/lisp/startup.el
index 04a37bf59e..ebf9d33a97 100644
--- a/lisp/startup.el
+++ b/lisp/startup.el
@@ -497,28 +497,20 @@ startup--xdg-config-default
 (defvar startup--xdg-config-home-emacs)
 
 ;; Return the name of the init file directory for Emacs, assuming
-;; XDG-DIR is the XDG location and USER-NAME is the user name.
-;; If USER-NAME is nil or "", use the current user.
-;; Prefer the XDG location unless it does does not exist and the
-;; .emacs.d location does exist.
+;; XDG-DIR is the XDG location and USER-NAME is the user name.  If
+;; USER-NAME is nil or "", use the current user.  Prefer the XDG
+;; location unless it does not exist, in which case we prefer the
+;; .emacs.d location (even if it does not exist)
 (defun startup--xdg-or-homedot (xdg-dir user-name)
+  (let ((user-name (if (and user-name (not (string-equal user-name "")))
+                       user-name
+                     init-file-user)))
   (if (file-exists-p xdg-dir)
       xdg-dir
-    (let ((emacs-d-dir (concat "~" user-name
-			       (if (eq system-type 'ms-dos)
-				   "/_emacs.d/"
-				 "/.emacs.d/"))))
-      (if (or (file-exists-p emacs-d-dir)
-	      (if (eq system-type 'windows-nt)
-                  (if (file-directory-p (concat "~" user-name))
-                      (directory-files (concat "~" user-name) nil
-                                       "\\`[._]emacs\\(\\.elc?\\)?\\'"))
-		(file-exists-p (concat "~" init-file-user
-				       (if (eq system-type 'ms-dos)
-					   "/_emacs"
-					 "/.emacs")))))
-	  emacs-d-dir
-	xdg-dir))))
+    (concat "~" user-name
+            (if (eq system-type 'ms-dos)
+                "/_emacs.d/"
+              "/.emacs.d/")))))
 
 (defun normal-top-level ()
   "Emacs calls this function when it first starts up.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-08  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-07  2:51 Default emacs init file location confusion Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-07  3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07  3:40   ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-07  4:40     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 14:43       ` Lawrence Liu
2020-01-07 15:26         ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-07 16:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 16:25             ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-07 17:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 17:11                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-07 17:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 17:33                     ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-07 17:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08  5:28                         ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-01-08  5:33                           ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-08  7:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 10:05                               ` Elias Mårtenson
     [not found]                               ` <m2eewajram.fsf@gmail.com>
2020-01-08 10:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 10:13                                   ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-08 10:22                                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 10:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 12:37                                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 13:51                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-08 15:58                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 16:28                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-08 16:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 16:41                                                 ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-01-08 16:49                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 17:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 17:25                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 17:35                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 17:44                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 17:56                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-08 18:03                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-09  2:27                                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-08 18:07                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 18:12                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 18:19                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08 19:45                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-08 20:03                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-10 16:57                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-11  1:46                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-01-11  7:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-11 15:43                                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-01-11 16:16                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-11 18:08                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-13  7:53                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-13 14:36                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-13 15:27                                                             ` Colin Baxter
2020-01-13 15:37                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-13 15:58                                                                 ` Colin Baxter
2020-01-13 16:05                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-13 16:42                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-13 16:59                                                                     ` Colin Baxter
2020-01-13 17:06                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-13 17:21                                                                         ` Colin Baxter
2020-01-13 16:15                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-13 16:39                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-14 14:00                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-14 16:05                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-15 13:03                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-15 17:32                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16  7:35                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-16 15:02                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16 15:08                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-13 16:52                                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-01-13 16:17                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-13 16:29                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2020-01-08 23:26                                           ` chad
2020-01-08 23:32                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-09  3:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-09  1:26                                             ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-01-09  5:07                                               ` 황병희
2020-01-08 11:03                                   ` Mario Lang
2020-01-08 15:56                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-08  8:04                             ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2020-01-07 17:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:08                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-07 18:41                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-07 18:57                           ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-07 19:15                             ` Greg Farough
2020-01-07 20:11                               ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-07 18:53                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-07 17:12                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-07 17:26                   ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-07  3:46   ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-01-07  3:50     ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-01-07  3:43 ` VanL
2020-01-07  3:51   ` Elias Mårtenson

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