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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299548 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 10 2022, Richard Stallman wrote: > > One thing that was talked about in the past is something like "local > > shorthands". I think the idea is that a certain prefix is only active > > in a certain region of the text. > > I think we could do this easily enough using the existing shorthands > feature. Would you like to write it? No, I'm not interested. I general, I think it was unnecessary to implement shorthands in the reader. It could have been done with a macro: just substitute those symbols that start with a shorthand prefix with the corresponding fully prefixed symbol. Helmut