MacOSX installation suggestions.

MacOSX installation suggestions.

[Jan D.]

Hello.

In the mac/INSTALL file it says twice that make install must be made as
root.  This is an error, I have never done make install as root, and
if you just have write permission, this works fine (as it does with
the other Emacs configurations).  I dont think documentation casually
should require you to be root to install things, when no such
requirement exists.  It discurages the installation of Emacs under
your own user.  I would change that to "make install requires that
you have write permission in the destination directories" or something
like that.  Or not write anything at all.

I do think make install should install Emacs.app also.  Now one has to
manually copy it after make install.  It doesn't seem right that make
install doesn't install everything.

Thanks,

	Jan D.

Re: MacOSX installation suggestions.

[Steven Tamm]

On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 04:26  AM, Jan D. wrote:

> Hello.
>
> In the mac/INSTALL file it says twice that make install must be made as
> root.  This is an error, I have never done make install as root, and
> if you just have write permission, this works fine (as it does with
> the other Emacs configurations).  I dont think documentation casually
> should require you to be root to install things, when no such
> requirement exists.  It discurages the installation of Emacs under
> your own user.  I would change that to "make install requires that
> you have write permission in the destination directories" or something
> like that.  Or not write anything at all.

It depends on the configuration.  If the configuration is to place it 
into /usr/local, then the correct permissions are there.  However on my 
machine, the non-root user doesn't have permission to write into 
/usr/share, which would cause the installation to fail.  Moreover, 
installing into /usr is probably not the best idea because Apple's 
system updates have a nasty habit of overwriting them (as it did 
between 10.1 and 10.2).

The point is taken.  I will point out that if installing into /usr (or 
possibly some other directory), one might need to use sudo.  I'll also 
document the suggestion about not using /usr.

> I do think make install should install Emacs.app also.  Now one has to
> manually copy it after make install.  It doesn't seem right that make
> install doesn't install everything.

Makes sense.  I just put in some changes to get the Application to 
build in a separate directory, so having it install into /Application 
would be nice (and pretty much done); it would make the make-package 
script a little easier.

What do people think about placing this mac-specfic stuff in a new 
Makefile in the mac/ directory v placing it in the src/ directory?  I 
was just going to place it in the src directory because it's not large 
enough to justify all the configuration changes needed (unless there 
are volunteers).

-Steven

Re: MacOSX installation suggestions.

[Jan D.]

> The point is taken.  I will point out that if installing into /usr (or 
> possibly some other directory), one might need to use sudo.  I'll also 
> document the suggestion about not using /usr.

Thanks.

>> I do think make install should install Emacs.app also.  Now one has to
>> manually copy it after make install.  It doesn't seem right that make
>> install doesn't install everything.
>
> Makes sense.  I just put in some changes to get the Application to build 
> in a separate directory, so having it install into /Application would be 
> nice (and pretty much done); it would make the make-package script a 
> little easier.

I would like to suggest a separate configure option, that defaults to
/Application (--appdir?).  If doing a build and install as a regular
user, one probably don't wan't it in /Application.


> What do people think about placing this mac-specfic stuff in a new 
> Makefile in the mac/ directory v placing it in the src/ directory?  I was 
> just going to place it in the src directory because it's not large enough 
> to justify all the configuration changes needed (unless there are 
> volunteers).

Would a make in src call the Makefile in the mac directory?

	Jan D.

Re: MacOSX installation suggestions.

[Andrew Choi]

"Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> writes:

> In the mac/INSTALL file it says twice that make install must be made as
> root.  This is an error, I have never done make install as root, and
> if you just have write permission, this works fine (as it does with
> the other Emacs configurations).  I dont think documentation casually
> should require you to be root to install things, when no such
> requirement exists.  It discurages the installation of Emacs under
> your own user.  I would change that to "make install requires that
> you have write permission in the destination directories" or something
> like that.  Or not write anything at all.

A more precise description is always desirable.  Please feel free to
modify mac/INSTALL.

> I do think make install should install Emacs.app also.  Now one has to
> manually copy it after make install.  It doesn't seem right that make
> install doesn't install everything.

Where should Emacs.app be put?  Should this location be a new parameter
to `configure'?  Not everyone would want to put it in /Applications or
want to copy it at all.

Re: MacOSX installation suggestions.

[Steven Tamm]

On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 03:07  AM, Jan D. wrote:
> I would like to suggest a separate configure option, that defaults to
> /Application (--appdir?).  If doing a build and install as a regular
> user, one probably don't wan't it in /Application.

I just checked it in.

The option is --enable-carbon-app with the default directory as 
/Application.  It takes an optional argument as the directory, so you 
could
./configure --enable-carbon-app=$HOME/Applications

-Steven

Re: MacOSX installation suggestions.

[Jan D.]

> 
> I just checked it in.
> 
> The option is --enable-carbon-app with the default directory as 
> /Application.  It takes an optional argument as the directory, so you 
> could
> ./configure --enable-carbon-app=$HOME/Applications

Works great.  The configure was not updated though.  It was not updated for
the previous change either (Check for nl_langinfo).

I updated it and checked it in.

Thanks,

	Jan D.