From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ASCII-only startup message? Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <567ECD8C.1070408@cs.ucla.edu> <8360zlhy7x.fsf@gnu.org> <567EE043.9020109@cs.ucla.edu> <83y4chgh5q.fsf@gnu.org> <567EED47.1090700@cs.ucla.edu> <83si2pgci8.fsf@gnu.org> <567F22B1.9040702@cs.ucla.edu> <2dc99848-b6d5-4f53-b22c-66e29d15647c@default> <444c19cb-4687-41c4-8291-481f5b5a42a1@default> <9e93866e-c6a4-42e3-b8b2-70fd6185b25e@default> <7294941d-a7c4-469c-9203-7949b2e34f0b@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451281939 20251 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2015 05:52:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 05:52:19 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 28 06:52:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDQj2-00017O-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:52:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43691 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDQj2-0006Nv-2t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:52:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34235) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDQik-0006Ng-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:51:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDQif-0007Gm-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:51:50 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDQif-0007GJ-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 00:51:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDQid-0000bz-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:51:43 +0100 Original-Received: from c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([68.39.146.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:51:43 +0100 Original-Received: from random832 by c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:51:43 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4Pt8bVIxQrKOzXHkFxp+toGJLKI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196994 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > So as the only demonstration of your claim that this character is > not maintained in Unicode for compatibility between "apostrophe" > and "right single quotation mark", you offer the statement that > the name is wrong. Drew Adams writes: > These are (should be) different animals and > they need not always have the same glyphs. As long as we're on the subject of whose claims are assertions without evidence, can you produce a single example of a system that actually supported using different glyphs for these (apart from the typewriter glyph, which isn't typographically appropriate for anything), and what those glyphs might have looked like? And, lest we get off the subject, The reason not to use U+2019 or any other non-ASCII character in the default scratch buffer text is because the user may not be able to save it, not because the ASCII one is more typographically or semantically appropriate.