From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Nextstep build uses iso-latin by default. WHY? 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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g74sm59055471pfj.1.2016.04.14.09.40.31 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Apr 2016 09:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A9E00142FF79E; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 09:40:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:35:19 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:202919 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: > There's no point in Emacs coming with two different macosx ports, so > incorporating Yamamoto Mitsuharu's version into Emacs would mean dropping > the current "ns port" and that comes with various downsides as well. A major point in favor of switching to Mitsuharu's version would be that he actively maintains it, whereas our only active NS port maintainer recently stepped down. I wouldn't even mind there being two build flavors, if each were actively maintained; but barring that, I'd prefer something that comes with a maintainer. It used to be the case in 24.x that the NS port was unusable in some ways (poor sub-process communication made working with GDB untenable, for exampl= e), and as such, Mac Port was something of a necessity. But the 25.x code seems= to have resolved that, so now I don't notice as much difference between the tw= o. =2D-=20 John Wiegley GPG fingerprint =3D 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJXD8fVAAoJEMFE2PTxn+Yw/CYL/AuhxxzzZ/W1N6Phk4hOyynw otx2I0eZ16Rhg4VRRvFh74xdULA8lTXUfxrQWqh8/43PNMwujSxXZPYm/ZizoeJ5 edYXwF7tYNDcDxcjRltEVy0nJ7qZ15w71ad/wd5R7pl13bseVn6kFmLTM61OLGUn YYYEJo5l/O+dABm5L7ChHDihHZQXeutuS+0BxkAJbKRC+24sazFxLNBHwM2xJHMh 7bbanQTmuPyMyf7ppEczcXT2BrRXjBHmCz3x3XFp24isfMjHxUEb8o7y67jhwLx4 QNLYxOZ3qfVTdLrjfD6U91qms3Q8b1K03pOGiw92OuAG8/rbd1P2iatfVKpPnJrF I3uGYJu11iNXcUIHCQ3RywnDaN4NXUO71jjoUwHqcZEOm4WJHiycv9BJh3G1nReh M8Q+Qpism5uIVJ4U9BC+hiIUU9IzZHtnB+FV8wKX8WzW8BYzOhRKs5B3UBrEEvZQ qZBRAVi0p7SI0t3q2aBK6EA6hjRIeFfgteJIK2Crxg== =4Cuy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--