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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>,
	 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	 Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 18:09:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2h66vmyq3.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvldw7afcl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 22 Dec 2024 10:51:39 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> My idea is this: we add an extra mark bit area to the pdumper file for
>> objects which we know to be "tenured": i.e. objects that we'll treat as
>> immortal, but for which we also know that all referenced objects will
>> also be "tenured", or static.
>
> IIUC this sounds like a kind of generational GC, except that promotion
> to the "tenured" set is made somewhat visible instead of being 100% internal.
>
>> If we write to such an object, we clear the bit, and put it on a special
>> set to maintain its tenure (it'd be nicer to simply set another bit, but
>> non-MPS pdumper cannot do so).  This should happen rarely, but it's
>> better than the current CHECK_IMPURE thing.
>
> If my understanding above is correct, then the
> `CHECK_IMPURE/check_writable` is what we usually call "write barrier",
> and the "special set" above is what we usually call the "remembered set".
>

Same understanding here.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-22 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 10:47 Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 13:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:20   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:30     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 17:56       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 18:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-17 18:56           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 12:55             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-18 14:03               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:05                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 16:30                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:25                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 22:27                   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-19  9:28                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-19 10:38                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-19 10:50                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 12:08                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-19 17:55                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 20:13                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 15:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-20 16:22                                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 17:25                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-20 20:35                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-20 20:39                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-21  6:33                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-21  6:56                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-20 20:38                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 20:57                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-20  8:42                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 19:30 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-17 20:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-18  2:15     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18  7:11       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-18 13:35         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  6:56     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-21 17:41       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-21 18:32         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-21 22:19         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22  1:28         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22 11:12           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 13:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 14:12               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 15:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-22 17:09               ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-12-22 17:10               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 13:13           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 14:16           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-18  9:30   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:50 ` Po Lu
2024-12-18  2:12   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18 21:26   ` Stefan Monnier

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