From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Novodvorsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fonts in carbon emacs Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:19:25 +0400 Organization: World Reintoxication Project Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120397988 21339 80.91.229.2 (3 Jul 2005 13:39:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 13:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 15:39:40 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp4gu-0006xF-E7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:39:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp4i4-00055P-5l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:40:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp4cK-0002fE-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:34:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp4c8-0002Xn-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:34:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp4c7-0002O3-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:34:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dp4Tu-00076d-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:25:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Dp4OC-0005PH-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from ppp83-237-57-128.pppoe.mtu-net.ru ([83.237.57.128]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:20:04 +0200 Original-Received: from nidd by ppp83-237-57-128.pppoe.mtu-net.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:20:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp83-237-57-128.pppoe.mtu-net.ru Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JtmOPIsECSUQj8FIrWu0n1wukV0= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40210 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40210 >>>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:15:42 +0900 >>>>> "YM" == YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: YM> >>>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 15:11:25 +0400, Peter Novodvorsky said: YM> YM> That's what I mentioned "tons of wrong glyphs" in YM> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-pretest-bug/2005-06/msg00547.html. Great reading, thanks! YM> Please refer to its followup messages to see how to customize a YM> fontset so that it may not introduce wrong glyphs. I've changed it to (create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font... and now it works flawlessly. YM> I'm not sure whether it's possible to preserve fontset after such YM> customization. A workaround is to customize "fontset-default" as YM> follows: YM> ΖΩΧΑΖΩΧΑ YM> (fontset-add-mac-fonts "fontset-default" "monaco") >>From my point of view it's a bug in emacs, because: a). cyrillics don't work even if I do everything that is needed how it is written in documenation. b). even if I use advices from developers, still functions from menus don't work. YM> But it has some drawbacks that 1) It does harm to ETL font users, and YM> 2) Font family for Central-European/Cyrillic fonts are not YM> synchronized with that for the ASCII (or mac-roman) font. Is there a way how it can be fixed in normal way? Could you give me any idea about that, so I can dig in that direction? Peter.