From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Meta and Alt confusion in the manual Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <44931364.5020608@student.lu.se> <44961A72.4010902@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1150702725 15361 80.91.229.2 (19 Jun 2006 07:38:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 19 09:38:43 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FsELK-0003Z8-PR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:38:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FsELK-00016k-1b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:38:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FsEKy-00015g-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:38:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FsEKx-00013y-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:38:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FsEKw-00013W-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:38:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.141.58.119] (helo=km1136.keymachine.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FsEV6-0000MZ-Uc; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdsldf127.osnanet.de [89.166.159.127]) (authenticated bits=0) by km1136.keymachine.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k5J7c7u3006168; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:38:07 +0200 Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Kenny MUA v.0409034.42) ID 1FsEKm-0000tA-0P; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:38:08 +0200 Original-To: Jason Rumney In-Reply-To: <44961A72.4010902@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:30:58 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55992 Archived-At: Jason Rumney wrote: > Sascha Wilde wrote: >> Lennart Borgman wrote: >> >>> In "(emacs) Symbol Completion" (31.8): >>> >>> The character `M-' ... (If your window manager defines >>> `M-' to ... >>> The window manager of course does not use M-. It uses >>> Alt-. >>> >> Things are even more complicated > > It isn't really complicated at all. We are talking about a conflict of > window manager key assignments with Emacs' assignments, and we are > talking about it in relation to how it affects Emacs. So it makes > sense to talk about it in terms of what Emacs calls its > keybindings. M- is one key assignment we have singled out as > commonly affected. I agree! So why do you want to differentiate between Meta and Alt while the only relevant case is when they are the same key? (And Emacs calls the key Meta). cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde "Gimme about 10 seconds to think for a minute..."