From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: builds are getting slower? Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:06:24 -0800 Message-ID: References: <8337vab7nx.fsf@gnu.org> <0d7fkmdxj1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <566D0BEB.4010707@cs.ucla.edu> <52wpsif21j.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <6tpoy9aorv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83fuz54sfk.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1u73cz8.fsf@gnu.org> <83lh8u1u71.fsf@gnu.org> <87egem5xuj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83fuz21ov2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450368712 29456 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2015 16:11:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 16:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 17 17:11:44 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a9b9c-0008Cq-EX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 17:11:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54523 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9b9b-0005S6-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9b8L-0004HS-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9b8K-0004Lm-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:10:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22b]:33837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a9b8G-0004K4-Ig; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:10:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 68so32997063pfc.1; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:10:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=CFHdUO+PTGMGKYCQ3B1jQrAGYkG3+W0gjbo2TZBiowE=; b=Pv8c6aFygbg2t7Bi0F4lyKIsPK5WVU9DtqFel6zsp9F2Dm1cYfqHFHfLxGgpivYTnq 5ZiWIEFD253ZgIpmjRGhRLTEwGIKCvpuE2ufRrAMd9qEWm/pXT5DxLkBcoNaW6ptsDJm Q3U+tIiJWelerW0Tx8iX2ZtiM7WhPFbab8IU6RVZ/3ZOwizxp/1DV5oEI5oGfG3LWk3A GJR3S1q/b7vFAJ70vUfEZyrB3+1GE3z5/eMqrw4PC00ncfV+ddyhgqP2aXmeF2oSbWrA WeKWS34S9yHFppMw2+I6DeanDjLBiFSFTheFc/NilN7UBFpUaGncNAxPVoee/Vtxaf0c jo8Q== X-Received: by 10.98.17.147 with SMTP id 19mr11657059pfr.66.1450368620099; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:10:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id sg4sm16713343pac.48.2015.12.17.08.10.16 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:10:16 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4F56B11924955; Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:10:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2015 21:11:57 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196421 Archived-At: >>>>> Glenn Morris writes: > IIRC, Stefan was against this kind of thing; ie, making tweaks to the build > process to work around an issue that would otherwise be present in normal > Emacs usage. The feeling was that we should fix issues properly, for > everyone, rather than hiding them. The context in which it came up before > was VC, which, like dir-locals, is another operation that runs every time > Emacs visits a file, so also needs careful treatment. I think I agree with > him more now then I did back then. I also agree. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2