From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question on fonts Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:05:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="61357"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: john Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 21 21:06:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1itzn5-000FlC-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:06:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60408 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1itzn4-0000ff-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:06:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1itzmX-0008W6-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:05:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1itzmW-0000US-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]:38805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1itzmW-0000TS-6t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:05:48 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id u2so4586528wmc.3 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:05:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wJJJlqlvOgTsSR/4UEwz7ifVUMJbL6UqR5CZxfGFAXc=; b=e8RC232C/pFCmFtnWBj0oEC7Mp+WS1EDf3fpnNwjlwnuCejKF89WOxZR1v0eo/8CyD YT++aO8YWV8CW4SP5BW+zA1lTk+XewO2DvYqWR/8bEfRvAs78nyZ/rjsxHJNUonIISua cBOWeZhtVYU8vdQ+b+EasU3AZof/XNc43zehsiS8CPjRGFDh/Lkspc0TkJuDeOKyVaoR sNkMYU+Wv8PGNMD3QJlW0cGDcxjRQKWyoPZIkMtXTQyDNKoYJefdMbXWbxS6yx+JJ/ht b41wFRRXcNgbFHcr6CoBEHnj5tSLJeJVv9s5YufwnOSFFJwFpjvOTEZNTBPllnSZQnGx ckCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wJJJlqlvOgTsSR/4UEwz7ifVUMJbL6UqR5CZxfGFAXc=; b=LRk5CtQGpKp/PoxO8ct1brZdQQRbfBvE1/wP6CzYSf/EcjLJ0aYA8LrCwXcAtW9iVh 4ZU7NiN4LfP3It556gKe6Yfk5GNPwFRIFsj3SkMjRAzlr5k/fC60RMEaxvDfIkmwU3Yo P4Z+dF5ht0Spp/U1rnn8Yv5PaDJpnKuHSn8FAE1f5jyzrKaLcFilZLcKpkh9/Xw2SScY 30xKPo/OEtrfMHNtq2GT0AcaU5ibiysbdLqrUcycBPK89a6eoQIlvpII8YZ9sUGvYbz+ J3tBRrTv+1Ci2yCl+M06+GbABloKtZs9/8zDyHwIDEcB0vW9JQXXRgFX89WvNFdJ6HbL ELJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWOVJQw2R3679yzMvigKWk+WZUvtRIqvtFoyMk85FHt61YaXXA+ wOpQ0ecG44/5galGbrHWVn5ElXvE X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwUVpe6pRn7UVdiohoG2XzRMp5819M7vSYxlmDGcloV8LssGYaOrFpPIbe/6TrlRMA8zx/QMA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1fd0:: with SMTP id f199mr78793wmf.113.1579637145731; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:05:45 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:687a:77d6:c4d5:9a57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j2sm631863wmk.23.2020.01.21.12.05.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 21 Jan 2020 12:05:45 -0800 (PST) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (john's message of "Tue, 21 Jan 2020 18:09:28 +0000 (GMT)") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244476 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 18:09:28 +0000 (GMT), john = said: john> I am sure this is a naive question but I am getting more confused= after john> each message.... No worries, we=CA=BCre here to help. john> I am not a visual person, and know nothing about fonts, except the john> font I get with current master is thin and spidery and so hard to john> read. If I run emacs 25.3 (from my GNU/Linux distro) I get a font john> that is clearer and a little heavier. What I would like is to ha= ve john> that 25.3 font on the current system. Run 'C-u C-x =3D' on 25.3, that will pop up a buffer with a description at the bottom of what font is being used. john> I saw messages about .Xresources but I do not have such a file john> anywhere. There are two files /etc/X11/Xresources and john> /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources which I suspect are the same but there is john> nothing in them relating to which font is used. As far as I can = tell john> the current emacs is built with cairo, Freetype, and HarfBuzz but= I john> have no idea what that means. Don=CA=BCt worry about Xresources files, they just get in the way. Since you=CA=BCre using cairo and freetype, the set of fonts available will probably be different from 25.3, so either 1. Use M-x menu-set-font and see if you can find a font with the same name as on 25.3. 2. Use M-x menu-set-font and try out the available choices and sizes until you find one that suits you. Don=CA=BCt forget to do 'Option->Save Options' afterwards. If you *really* want to use the same font and step 1 doesn=CA=BCt find it for you, then you'll have to find a scalable version of it somewhere and install it. How to do that will vary based on your distribution and desktop environment. Robert