From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thumbs.el and transparency Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:46:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <17366.53124.274532.548329@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <878xspwnjm.fsf@jurta.org> <87slqvfobk.fsf@jurta.org> <87d5hy43b6.fsf@jurta.org> <87u0b8lwhw.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139527898 19863 80.91.229.2 (9 Feb 2006 23:31:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 23:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 10 00:31:37 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7LG0-0005nh-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 00:31:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7LFz-0004Ic-3A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 18:31:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F7KZA-0007sR-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:47:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F7KZ5-0007q5-92 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:47:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7KZ4-0007po-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F7Kci-0007WG-7E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1F7KYx-0003IZ-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:46:56 +0100 Original-Received: from 1-1-3-38a.gml.gbg.bostream.se ([82.182.110.147]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:46:55 +0100 Original-Received: from brakjoller by 1-1-3-38a.gml.gbg.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2006 23:46:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1-1-3-38a.gml.gbg.bostream.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:IGlH0GurqJ+OPQ3Zn3eyOa8u3p8= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50282 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > Since there are two thumbnail packages in Emacs, it would be double > effort to contribute to both. What do you think about idea to move > the basic things (like creation of thumbnail files to the same directory) > to thumbs.el, and leaving in tumme.el only advanced functionality? I don't understand the reasoning behind this, or I have a completely different view point. You say it is hard to contribute to two thumbnail packages, to which I agree with completely. But you suggest moving things from tumme to thumbs to make them more different. Still some things would need to exist in both. Wouldn't the best solution be to have *one* thumbnail package that handle both basic and advanced things? In my opinion, tumme is there now and there are very few things missing in it, that thumbs has. Maybe you suggest that they are used together, that tumme provides things that thumbs uses, and the other way around? I don't see much benefit in that though. Splitting tumme into smaller chunks could be a good thing to do, to make it more modular, but other than that I don't see that it is worth doing. The only problem in moving/copying/duplicating thumbs stuff into tumme is that tumme becomes bigger, it is quite large already, but I don't think it is unmanageable. The users would benefit; they would get the old "simpler" things from thumbs and the "advanced" things from tumme, all in one package. I just added two items to tumme's todo-section. There are now only four todos left to make tumme do everything that thumbs does, and none of them are very hard to implement. With some help they would be done in no time and we could have one thumbnail package that we could continue to work on. All this said, of course, with my usual disclaimer that I'd be equally happy to merge tumme stuff into thumbs and make thumbs the default and only thumbnail package. I would not volunteer to do the work though... :)