From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: use-package.el -> Emacs core Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:48:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <871tbyo7zd.fsf@gmail.com> <86lha577ux.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87egfwanq0.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447260782 16859 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 16:53:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kaushal Modi , Stephen Leake , Bruce Connor , Emacs developers To: Oleh Krehel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 17:52:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwYdT-0001zH-Ah for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:52:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41732 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwYdS-0000aa-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:52:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwYc6-0008A1-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:51:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwYbh-000191-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230]:33097) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwYbh-00018o-EV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:50:49 -0500 Original-Received: by pabfh17 with SMTP id fh17so35619048pab.0 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:50:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=gs6qDHa+wDMiNMMUU9Dff6IauK5nEC54Y+YjpTb90a4=; b=nMapMgV0nPvR0OIKGBPPVUYEfUh/db69Q0kIDB4tk6bL+LHMER95Ihc0zCHCi8MyT2 wvQts8KhvSM1JR2mXorMHgl1xSMtK26bxeAGcGwWrfE8bdBm8OlsYl0x3tUmT/Mge7yv t0Jr/ofLj9+2b+gXqT4FqlNoc78hhgBDS3UJj2Fzylmd4xtaLUHgC4Q/j1ojyTcHikX2 rtyrDeqVyNeBChDqKCho73JY8Crt1tVlhi4R4L6i/dW2aTHpsmL6R570vTCrxpZJ1rb2 OUj5W2jRJN3yapIZzFVTNtlkQEIvtVyZL2+1nyJ4vDx/pa6IXNZ++SWltxnah6uSEFky Njaw== X-Received: by 10.68.69.38 with SMTP id b6mr8657056pbu.46.1447260648929; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:50:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.attlocal.net (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id nu5sm10230783pbb.65.2015.11.11.08.50.47 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.attlocal.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 50D9B10546098; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:50:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87egfwanq0.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleh Krehel's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:29:11 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Oleh Krehel , Stephen Leake , Emacs developers , Bruce Connor , Kaushal Modi X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194092 Archived-At: >>>>> Oleh Krehel writes: > I use (a narrow subset of) use-package; I like it, and I'm all for having it > in GNU ELPA. That should cover my reservations for added Elisp complexity: > if it's not in the core, my previously listed concerns are much less severe. Thanks, Oleh, I do think it belongs in ELPA, so long as it's on the user's load-path by default after they install Emacs. Since we're converging toward a notion of "tarball ELPA" in other threads, this should satisfy both our concerns. John