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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u64sm45313384pfa.86.2016.02.23.08.42.37 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:42:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 94AEE1314890D; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 08:42:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:11:11 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , Oleh Krehel , Emacs developers , Michael Albinus , Drew Adams , Kaushal Modi X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200540 Archived-At: >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: >> I would like to see prefix-less aliases for many of the functions in >> cl-lib. Let's create a module cl-intf that requires cl-lib and provides >> those aliases; and then allow cl-intf to be used in core, so long as we >> ensure that cl-intf never shadows existing Emacs Lisp functions also in >> core. > We have that. It's called cl.el. That's acceptable to me, so long as its still OK to (eval-when-compile (require 'cl)) in core modules. I think this decision started because someone did that and you asked them to use cl-lib.el. I have never needed anything more than the macros in cl.el, so if that's the proposed answer to my concern, I'm fine with that. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2