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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236890 Archived-At: On Wed, May 22 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think there might be some over-reaction here. No one reprimanded > you for bringing up this suggestion. What happened is that Richard > expressed his opinion about the suggested feature, that's all. I'm > sure you will agree that some suggestions which Stefan and myself > solicited will cause objections and disagreements. That's entirely > normal and should be expected. > > Let's continue discussing this issue until we understand the balance > of the different opinions about your proposal. Emacs, a play by Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------- Emacs: Please proffer your suggestions on how Emacs could be improved, for we wish to attract new users! Me: As a comparatively new user, I remember when learning Emacs I found this part ugly and confusing. Here is a suggestion from such a perspective on how it could be improved. Emacs: It seems impossible that a new user would find that part ugly or confusing. It is unthinkable that it would be improved. ~ fin ~ Thanks for the response. Please don't consider this as my proposal, I don't really want to keep debating whether I found something ugly/confusing or not. It's just a thing left in the Emacs Suggestion Box. Do with what you will.