From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cairo now default? 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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::431 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244715 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:24:59 +0000, Colin Baxter = said: >> Only if they then choose to use a font for which Xft gets things >> wrong. If their existing font was fine (and not bitmapped), it >> will be fine under Cairo. >> Which of these two screenshots is --with-cairo, and which is >> without? (both are using HarfBuzz) Colin> I agree, yours look at same. Here at mine: Colin> A. emacs1-splash.png; emacs1-scratch.png Colin> ./configure --without-cairo Colin> B. emacs2-splash.png; emacs2-scratch.png Colin> ./configure Colin> The configure options tell me I have no Harfbuzz and I get the no Colin> "Harfbuzz" warning message. Colin> I'm no expert, but to me, the fonts in B. look weaker than those= in A. To me they look slightly sharper. Tomayto, tomahto. I don=CA=BCt think either look bad. (I=CA=BCm assuming they're both using the same font). Robert