From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eshell and Sudo Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 02:22:44 -0600 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87ehgg451n.fsf@gnu.org> <87txpc3wnn.fsf@gmx.de> <87r4kgcacu.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361089378 30780 80.91.229.3 (17 Feb 2013 08:22:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:22:58 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 17 09:23:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U6zWl-0004tv-RR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:23:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6zWR-000691-A7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:22:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6zWN-00068i-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6zWL-0002JH-BT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:22:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gh0-f179.google.com ([209.85.160.179]:34136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6zWL-0002JA-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-gh0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r14so392048ghr.10 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:22:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:subject:organization:references :mail-followup-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=gb2Ib606hzYZhaXjfHBlJL19Rsdnnn4OfIofvlEcbqg=; b=mr+EtYXybUfclo44BRvL8yeVlyiUZWO2VqgTN2N2Mzs8okwE8KORyKgJ/v7GvVaSGo o4I1m64cyCXXt2qe4wy5wCDwlEP+XkTSDN8XPCZbQW9xdefM0uS4z8wX2lSOuWKLt3md ygVk26jX8EET6j8NrTWPEELo05twxHDMRmZAnotz5bJFIZsXoSkMNrGrRe2I5mTxl5jm qUxvnhwPY+yzMqjkU7zh7KSPzfeTRe6BwUJeOEvimFLuFU/z9K49rOokU/Ev0VWaMWFo dSg/DKEXwx5hIWtY+FT1Inh41nt4X3nsV2mRDknQV2/vEIhAjYe7SgZiCRlxcR1NqHcP lmbw== X-Received: by 10.236.180.42 with SMTP id i30mr12908547yhm.68.1361089368181; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:22:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (c-98-214-70-173.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.214.70.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i24sm56861177ann.16.2013.02.17.00.22.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:22:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 33A48496CB80; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 02:22:45 -0600 (CST) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87r4kgcacu.fsf@dimension8.tehua.net> (Aidan Gauland's message of "Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:44:17 +1300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.179 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157092 Archived-At: >>>>> Aidan Gauland writes: > No one, not even John Wiegley, seems to know why sudo/su works for some > people and not others. Debugging Eshell sudo/su is on my TODO list. I > don't even know whether this is an Eshell problem or a TRAMP problem. I > suspect tramp, since Eshell is only calling TRAMP (which should *not* be > blowing up like it does for some people). As a note, I do not think tramp should be involved by default in eshell/sudo. This should be an optional module, em-tramp, which one can enable to bring in such behavior. It makes using sudo on localhost many, many times slower, with no functional benefit. Thanks, John