From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:56:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87tuwabm5a.fsf@gnus.org> <9fb02447-6189-490f-a6ee-3d037492e0e6@default> <838sdhk8ho.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37144"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ghe@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 16:56:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGO0C-0009Xh-Qq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:56:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51018 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGO0B-0004gS-TN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:56:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNzg-0004HN-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x32e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::32e]:37424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGNzf-0003AF-1m; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x32e.google.com with SMTP id a9so347602wmm.2; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:56:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kpsVaXZJmT5Mw6+qz3sEW2mUmP/b6V3qGMcOvyZJnmw=; b=PVyIZyzyPEpcT00/IG/cjVRHIHXxN6yijL6blLhEyVTthR/gR0MPafR9Aeqkajiayd GH/NCIS+dZExu5WQC9lmILAUj+G0CbWSxya4xbLhrgC2ZP1cNeQk6z8CkNDKmAz1BJkF w/JLkV8+MH0Ihp9yamXEuLStG//cHmwxGth8r/2DhH45OP/Inb7jgMYxxhZnX3diiayC Bf5dE/9gxTz53zHohhNVEt8oVUnqWc+33Yj3z4GobJjVjULKR+BssPwMB81mM2dU15+m hImWBBTgIVMsfRxXyV8xqm+OfE8GuDL/UTjF6B0Ehbc3CRc0uZbK+bnw7f7QwHBOkzGD 536A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kpsVaXZJmT5Mw6+qz3sEW2mUmP/b6V3qGMcOvyZJnmw=; b=BvwQVpXrytJkTZwlyLJUqnTgOvSW1VLHq45TwxzRgLgNahqYN8vwRzxf9HEjFtAvEz PG28lvennK4lip4QlgLmS3Yp0ywYa5Rl75wcD9Zz7gv+/lgCL9Yj268AkFn8xhj7f87w aADdZr73kF2eRL8/mBowrLRjCfgc3fPUwWqtJraaCKO28KxvrcnBLGSPNMgrna3be1kQ 6VBanrm1MyeYB8GakWkZV0dzzfPDZk/fLhpOB+bqg+ZPIinjogYA7OaokGOsqCRPnkic 51jb+e6xn90cK8upjmslBHyYpIcRTtINJSeLQG1h/ATz6X6b/rrLoXWNYNgvBFMhYEZ+ Ij9w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5327aXN6JLhsglf/AaeL5ah51hlimwMDqQkNyzOCofL9B0xB4CFk SUnCE2RPX5u1p0+auGSmzPcVnE6m0cQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0iK2kY+sdQLF2/JtDsw7TXF6v+ydQODE52Me2zq83jorpUUvlZGhD9EaS1qa1B07Uta+YWA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:59c2:: with SMTP id n185mr375227wmb.43.1599749768610; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:8c16:d3f4:7c3b:1764]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n4sm3991781wmd.26.2020.09.10.07.56.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 10 Sep 2020 07:56:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <838sdhk8ho.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:32:35 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32e; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32e.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255008 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 17:32:35 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 14:52:49 +0200 >> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Drew Adams , >> Emacs developers >>=20 Gregory> Indeed. I know this, but I don't know why this is the case (*= ). I Gregory> used to explicitly set Reply-To to emacs-devel@gnu.org in my M= UA, but Gregory> Eli asked me to stop to do this. >>=20 >> I think in that case rmail replies only to emacs-devel@, which means >> Eli has to add back the other recipients. Eli, do we need a "reply to >> 'From+To+CC+Reply-To'" feature in rmail? ("wide reply" in Gnus parla= nce). Eli> I don't think I understand what that means (never used Gnus, sorry= ), Eli> and don't remember the details of the issue. But in general, why Eli> would someone need to set Reply-To to the list address when replyi= ng Eli> to a message from the list? It should be automatic in any sensible Eli> MUA, no? They wouldn=CA=BCt, but apparently Mailman sets 'Reply-To: ghe@sdf.org' on Gregory's behalf, which then causes Outlook to respond only to him. In Gnus, when I say 'wide reply', it hoovers up 'From,To,CC,Reply-To', so that doesn=CA=BCt bother me. I don=CA=BCt know what rmail does, hence my question. Maybe Drew needs a different MUA? :-) Robert