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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258236 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 15:30:06 +0000, Alan Mackenzie said: Alan> The verb "recommend" needs a direct object (or gerund). That direct Alan> object can either be the thing recommended, or the person to whom the Alan> recommendation is being made. Alan> So, correct forms of your statement would be either: Alan> We recommend YOU to enable ... and to convert ..... Nitpicking your nitpick: "We recommend you enable" or even "We recommend that you enable" (as opposed to eg "we advise you to enable") Alan> or Alan> We recommend ENABLING .... and CONVERTING .... Alan> . English isn't always an easy language. ;-) "It shouldn't be like that, but it do" ;-) Robert --