From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:08:27 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87r1na4tyu.fsf@gnus.org> <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6txigm1.fsf@gnus.org> <874kk5lzew.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87eej8ifll.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7o3k5b5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 16:09:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kud6E-0006hB-HD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:09:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57916 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kud6D-0002HZ-JD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:09:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kud5V-0001nN-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:08:33 -0500 Original-Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.21]:39853) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kud5T-0008QF-OD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:08:33 -0500 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CABCC0D; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:08:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:08:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=fm2; bh=tUzTSjxVVpmOTb7aHDpaGRBs1K lBzig6S63t36M4IrI=; b=rXNWQ9uxpZeFSA5rRbQXswx8co2dlysqw1HSQDRCuy zFDI8X9mcLQlo2iNv+6oqXxepxBkSSR/bxItZ923mPgibmPi4rpTihMoEJnmkbz6 Tfvsc91zQqkatyif72bfRRPerm2DdGmyHq1PwS4BmY1vLjAKW5C3eh6u5K/dXwla SHPTrAjaVXv8kkO6cZunOpY+ji/PHUnOwOAJbotmrDOhbnAuJ/BovvjLvjKe4Q9d 1E+m5VkRYVADSrSH3Xhk/1gpU2OCg/642zFOQgcE+Gu1txdAxxn8Wncl5UNUz/yi 5YdRYk8OKq9Rw4w4bZ8naOPwQegZqkEKAl8+kGL4mnZQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=tUzTSj xVVpmOTb7aHDpaGRBs1KlBzig6S63t36M4IrI=; b=M1JsoD78mJvt5xTvOJKR0h fuCtDxxbPDS2bgEJ1dUL2mJguN2FQHInlgZDeeTao5sFukfRTSZYpns/1Pc6vG5P SCh08dtl4rxPewB9gt4szs3nbSfSNku5ktB8cIzViVNv2brnhEr1Bz64ULVctRt2 frvf1idmNFlXusWlXfDWOXjjFNh+aOYasxOzsHFOllVfDE2drwnMr/UZqudJLMEy 7tmgnsm0EiR7eR7FYFhSfwGZMlqXvWQOYkUHVdZx7Z0MU5i+wzvdPN3synmG5sYO 1I76NFaAHwnBZ2sm+7lh4HvXlu5Wz1JuQwam2X7rOPk4hvZ/C78y6zRJw3PcbcDw == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrvddvfedgjedvucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvufgjfhgffffkgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefhihhlihhp phcuifhunhgsihhnuceofhhguhhnsghinhesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepvdevkeffvdeuvefhuddtjeehkedvueefveettddtveduudfgieffieev ieevhfdtnecukfhppeekgedrvddtgedrudelfedruddtieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiii gvpedunecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehfghhunhgsihhnsehfrghsthhmrghi lhdrfhhm X-ME-Proxy: Original-Received: from fgunbin.local (unknown [84.204.193.106]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D7F621080059; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:08:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87h7o3k5b5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:32:14 +0200") Mail-Followup-To: Juri Linkov , Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.21; envelope-from=fgunbin@fastmail.fm; helo=wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, GAPPY_SUBJECT=0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262128 Archived-At: On 30/12/2020 11:32 +0200, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> Ok, since everyone wants the old keybinding back, I'll restore >>> isearch-yank-pop to old code, and also add a new command >>> 'isearch-yank-from-kill-ring', but unbound because there is >>> no free key in isearch-mode. >> >> Not everyone and it is definitely not logical. > > Thanks, now I see that not everyone wants the old keybinding back. > Maybe then on every use of old command we could display a message > that will suggest to use a better keybinding 'C-y' because to > hold the Control key, then type 's' and 'y' is easier than to > hold the Control key, type 's', release the Control key, > hold the Meta key, type 'y'. Then later we could bind > the new command to 'M-y' again. It all depends on your way of typing, and on the keyboard layout.