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[217.227.108.141]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u18-20020a1709061db200b0072b7d76211dsm1339175ejh.107.2022.10.07.08.12.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 07 Oct 2022 08:12:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 07 Oct 2022 10:51:25 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::634; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x634.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297159 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Then I don't see how it would be a "ready-made complete solution" > because it doesn't seem easy to make such updates lazily "from the > outside". I was anwering the context of the whole thread on the bug list, which partly landed on emacs-devel. Where "tree" meant what we talked about implementing a successor function instead of a stateful stack that was being used at the time, and so on, and so on. Whatever.