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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322749 Archived-At: Nicolas Martyanoff writes: > Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > >> Another question is of course why something like Tom's FFI must be made >> part of Emacs when, AFIU, it could be a package like vterm which also >> contains an Emacs module. > > This is what I had in mind when I suggested a dynamic module using > libffi (apparently exactly what this emacs-ffi does) . I do not see the > point in trying to get this kind of module included in Emacs since it is > obviously not wanted here. > > Just distribute it as a package and be done with it. People wanting to > use it will just add it as a dependency. +1