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From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:51:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2br0jd2lk.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a0511170119s408ad25bt@mail.gmail.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:19:45 +0900")

Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2005/11/17, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>:
>> I doubt that `M-#' in gnus is used too much, because it has one
>> inconvenience which is not fixed for a long time.  Unlike `#' which
>> advances to the next article, `M-#' stays on the same article.
>
> Unmarking commands in Gnus follow a fairly regular pattern -- if key
> "foo" marks, then "M-foo" unmarks.  This correspondence is _extremely_
> useful, because one uses unmarking commands more rarely than the
> corresponding marking command, so a regular naming convention makes it
> easy to remember what they're bound to.

I agree, that the correspondence is quite use full, but I also do
agree with Juri, that the slightly different behavior of M-# is
extremely inconvenient.  IMO this should be fixed, by making M-#
advance to (like M-u does!).

[...]
>> There is another key binding in gnus that conflicts with the global
>> key binding.  It is `M-g'.
>
> Yeah, so what?  Another notable non-tragedy.

I agree, in this special case, that it is not tragic:

  Global Bindings Starting With M-g:
  key             binding
  ---             -------

  M-g p           previous-error
  M-g n           next-error
  M-g g           goto-line
  M-g ESC         Prefix Command

  M-g M-p         previous-error
  M-g M-n         next-error
  M-g M-g         goto-line

previous-error and next-error just don't make any sense in gnus.  (In
fact, I'm not sure why they are global bindings anyway.)  And
goto-line isn't particularly use full in gnus buffers either.

BUT, in general I think, that Emacs as a whole should be as consistent
as possible.  That is one reason why global bindings should be
approved by Richard, and I thin that is a good thing[tm]. ;-)

cheers
sascha
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-17  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-15 16:45 Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 17:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-15 18:47   ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 19:08     ` Miles Bader
2005-11-15 19:33       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-16 10:48     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 16:21       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 14:07         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-17 18:32           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-17 21:40             ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 21:58               ` David Kastrup
2005-11-19 18:12               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-20 13:29                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-20 18:14                   ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-20 22:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-21  1:50                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21  2:50                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21  8:10                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22  5:01                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:28                         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 14:41                           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 16:02                           ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 17:42                             ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 20:26                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 20:41                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-22 22:40                                   ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  1:37                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-23  4:15                                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  5:14                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23  6:29                                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  8:17                                         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23  9:19                                           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23  9:42                                             ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23  9:47                                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 10:04                                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-24  3:57                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 11:53                                           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24  3:58                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-27  3:27                                               ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24  8:48                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-24 12:18                                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 13:07                                                 ` Michael Cadilhac
2005-11-24 14:00                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-24 14:45                                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 17:12                                                     ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-25 15:49                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 20:22                                               ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-27 20:04                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28  4:46                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 10:40                                             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-25 15:49                                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24  3:58                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:14                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:06                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 21:35                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  6:06                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23  6:24                                 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  9:18                                   ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 12:06                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 11:12                         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 23:47       ` Ryan Yeske
2005-11-20 23:57         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22  2:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-04 22:19             ` Ryan Yeske
2005-12-05 16:37               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 21:39         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 22:15           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 17:16 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 23:22   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16  8:30     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20  1:17       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20  9:54         ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 21:42           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 10:22         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-17  7:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-17  9:19   ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17  9:51     ` Sascha Wilde [this message]
2005-11-17 10:01       ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 14:30       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20  1:18       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20  4:16         ` Kevin Greiner
2005-11-21  7:32           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-18 16:57   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 18:24     ` Reiner Steib
     [not found] <20051121194141.7FA5B1207F1@localhost.localdomain>
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 14:15   ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-22 17:30     ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-22 17:54     ` Jay Belanger

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