From: Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:51:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2br0jd2lk.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a0511170119s408ad25bt@mail.gmail.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:19:45 +0900")
Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2005/11/17, Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>:
>> I doubt that `M-#' in gnus is used too much, because it has one
>> inconvenience which is not fixed for a long time. Unlike `#' which
>> advances to the next article, `M-#' stays on the same article.
>
> Unmarking commands in Gnus follow a fairly regular pattern -- if key
> "foo" marks, then "M-foo" unmarks. This correspondence is _extremely_
> useful, because one uses unmarking commands more rarely than the
> corresponding marking command, so a regular naming convention makes it
> easy to remember what they're bound to.
I agree, that the correspondence is quite use full, but I also do
agree with Juri, that the slightly different behavior of M-# is
extremely inconvenient. IMO this should be fixed, by making M-#
advance to (like M-u does!).
[...]
>> There is another key binding in gnus that conflicts with the global
>> key binding. It is `M-g'.
>
> Yeah, so what? Another notable non-tragedy.
I agree, in this special case, that it is not tragic:
Global Bindings Starting With M-g:
key binding
--- -------
M-g p previous-error
M-g n next-error
M-g g goto-line
M-g ESC Prefix Command
M-g M-p previous-error
M-g M-n next-error
M-g M-g goto-line
previous-error and next-error just don't make any sense in gnus. (In
fact, I'm not sure why they are global bindings anyway.) And
goto-line isn't particularly use full in gnus buffers either.
BUT, in general I think, that Emacs as a whole should be as consistent
as possible. That is one reason why global bindings should be
approved by Richard, and I thin that is a good thing[tm]. ;-)
cheers
sascha
--
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-.+++++++++++.+++++.>+++++++[<-------->-]<-.>++++++[<+++++++>-]<+.--.+++..----
---.-.>++++++[<------>-]<.>++++[<+++++++++++++>-]<.------------.---.>++++++[<-
----->-]<-.>+++++[<+++++++>-]<.--.>+++[<++++++>-]<+.>++++++++[<--------->-]<--.
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-15 16:45 Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 17:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-15 18:47 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 19:08 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-15 19:33 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-16 10:48 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 16:21 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 14:07 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-17 18:32 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-17 21:40 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 21:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-19 18:12 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-20 13:29 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-20 18:14 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-20 22:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-21 1:50 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21 2:50 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21 8:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 5:01 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 14:41 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 16:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 17:42 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 20:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 20:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-22 22:40 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 1:37 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-23 4:15 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 5:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 6:29 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23 9:19 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 9:42 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23 9:47 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 10:04 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-24 3:57 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 11:53 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24 3:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-27 3:27 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24 8:48 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-24 12:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 13:07 ` Michael Cadilhac
2005-11-24 14:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-24 14:45 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 17:12 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-25 15:49 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 20:22 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-27 20:04 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 4:46 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 10:40 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-25 15:49 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 3:58 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:06 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 21:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23 6:06 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 6:24 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23 9:18 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 12:06 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 11:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 23:47 ` Ryan Yeske
2005-11-20 23:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 2:20 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-04 22:19 ` Ryan Yeske
2005-12-05 16:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 21:39 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 22:15 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 17:16 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 23:22 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 8:30 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 1:17 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 9:54 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 21:42 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 10:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-17 7:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-17 9:19 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 9:51 ` Sascha Wilde [this message]
2005-11-17 10:01 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 14:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 1:18 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 4:16 ` Kevin Greiner
2005-11-21 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-18 16:57 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 18:24 ` Reiner Steib
[not found] <20051121194141.7FA5B1207F1@localhost.localdomain>
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 14:15 ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-22 17:30 ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-22 17:54 ` Jay Belanger
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