From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: bug#23372: 25.0.93; text-quoting-style missing from manual and from customize Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 15:10:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wpnlq1xu.fsf@gmail.com> <83lh40287l.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg9rzh3q.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461862707 18170 80.91.229.3 (28 Apr 2016 16:58:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 23372@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 28 18:58:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGZ-0001ka-8S for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:58:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGY-0002RB-OH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39747) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGQ-0002HT-93 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:58:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGM-0007Yy-4d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:58:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGM-0007Yr-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGL-000615-RX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:58:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix notabug Original-Received: via spool by 23372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23372.146186268023119 (code B ref 23372); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 16:58:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGK-00060p-B4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:58:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com ([209.85.218.41]:34881) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avpGH-00060P-Id for 23372@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:57:57 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id x19so90220926oix.2 for <23372@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:57:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=qgSdzQbpwpdQBiTAPMyYbNAw9oQ2ksGxrhRChdk71gY=; b=T/ox1suTRgjC0NE8xZ26knHIqITsqMJSifRC69ljurYD4nV9b2cK2iA3g7EqlscA9u uDnVQeFkbYa5Vp1c1O9lPqrW0h8bXs4QqhrElhhBMzw/6XFfQNlnOiNYX8SKdem2XAiI nE+3JaBZHjh16eBBHzeZGdLyFTO3oK0oiXRMJTIjJIYps8lZLSA+fpC0p0JPv45WcdcD oBtf3A3deohOvzHkQsldCbWcGvKfuwD80yHScgWYOYPaQgLjd6uSwzyPRbElGosqcckk VmXVUG/vNW1uYyyXtFKqL7s+t2UlBlVc9f2ELdJt13FTZJNt1mYvubGHFmTjtr6An/cI Jlvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version; bh=qgSdzQbpwpdQBiTAPMyYbNAw9oQ2ksGxrhRChdk71gY=; b=H/eNichlglVB48DL4R5Vuw86OpqZGK2YdsXsBN67FTahdoOAqkGzrodeb4GL2IemHV ceKiTNALH7N5BMFThf4GCZynyxAY2b/xrkrZRvCdszFpzpwBUpW9ehnfvuU0dUkKK9wi T/TqyxrvS52DLuI6KYtGrt719H5pZgw557j/ZIYk1l4hUmZvp9qMyBvsuCqDZoiwCjij u1i1nj3p1RfPir/YHivoUe6Y02Q3PNb6GkUZvEA/4yIKYL+gC66F0jZEIEXxkyKkFEAq 2nWeqAh8rW3NNgs6pOyZ4cWcMCXt73ZSuJuPJhtR+A5b3Iwy4oyZ5LvP2vDy8seigDVj 4JwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVgPMXDkAMit617BC7kIC8QbvlsPvWvwivJRlT1JzRpbfBlkNsrPgtEQ0/SoBqqiA== X-Received: by 10.157.51.70 with SMTP id u6mr7182979otd.8.1461862672158; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dl17sm637487obc.9.2016.04.28.09.57.48 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id CE79C1465F61C; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83eg9rzh3q.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 09:43:53 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.93 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , 23372@debbugs.gnu.org, nljlistbox2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117099 gmane.emacs.devel:203400 Archived-At: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: > It is easy to make a variable into a defcustom; the inverse is generally > much harder. That _is_ a rather strong argument... The main reason I'd like a customization option along with the introduction of the feature, is that it's a departure from *very* long-standiing practice, so unless you happen to like Unicode quotes, I'm predicting that several people will want a way to get back the sort of display they've been used to seeing since antiquity. Do any others object to having a customization option along with release of the feature? I'm cross-posting this to Emacs-devel to get more opinions. The question is: Should `text-quoting-style' be customizable in 25.1, or should it be a variable, thus requiring Lisp code to change it for now? -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2