From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 23:21:24 -0800 Message-ID: References: <76b1fb81-54c0-c213-a542-dc7b9838c473@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517210418 7809 195.159.176.226 (29 Jan 2018 07:20:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 07:20:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.91 (darwin) Cc: emacs-devel , Stefan Monnier , George Plymale II To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 29 08:20:14 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eg3jJ-00009S-07 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:19:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45218 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eg3lH-0002UU-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eg3l5-0002RI-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eg3l0-0006Ep-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54206) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eg3ku-00068t-PW; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:28 -0500 Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]:48667) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eg3ku-0000pV-JG; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:28 -0500 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1643020C7F; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:28 -0500 X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from localhost (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A452B2418B; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:21:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Radon Rosborough's message of "Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:53:28 -0800") Mail-Followup-To: Radon Rosborough , Stefan Monnier , George Plymale II , emacs-devel X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222292 Archived-At: >>>>> "RR" == Radon Rosborough writes: RR> JW does not use package.el. Instead he uses git-subtree to manage the RR> packages and use-package to autoload them. The point I was trying to RR> demonstrate by bringing this up was that package activation is not cheap. As of tow weeks ago, I now use Nix to manage my environment, instead of subtrees. :) This makes it easier to vary what is installed based on the combination of Emacs and OS version, and also I can pin individual packages at specific versions, install custom patches, or add installation details for packages not in ELPA or MELPA. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2