From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding use-package to core Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 11:48:09 -0800 Message-ID: References: <838rkels13.fsf@gnu.org-NGltIw7----9> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30419"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (darwin) Cc: "xenodasein--- viaEmacs development discussions." , Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 13 20:50:02 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ouIzR-0007h4-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:50:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouIyj-00009w-A1; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:49:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouIxo-0008Qu-Rd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:48:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouIxo-0002UF-IB; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:48:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=aX4txpu2YNz9M98VL9dZgBS8MnyL8x8BQvbvGokm0Ew=; b=bp01kfsw+8schSM3NnRX +CCCygQITtbR0llW6ShEP4jAnOHFPPDVD8PefbaPvzO6OcjQonsya/fugFn0ZYGO67GZ7CxoZQp7Y 8qfpJItqOVUw5SizSeYXR0+RH0j7AYzhA/XX7zDiSJt6Y+X6TqbIl0AOqDumqUaV1pj1WEO8RnTbX MNi0srIybh4TMSuEZqWzDLuTN8wOIWMoFwaoUiqGhIjGNMKjsJFs6vMSUDxyv6r31VWeL6BnnzWam MsGvWWpmROiyfxCjR8zL0C/tXKTbMrPmKFQATax8rZZPfNfA2Tr5qeFB6+L15weJM9mI4cVj2ybMm zWWR0ve1WpxKgw==; Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouIxm-0007F6-RL; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:48:19 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6134727C0054; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:48:18 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:48:18 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrgedtgddufeduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffvvefujgffkfhffgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomheplfhohhhn ucghihgvghhlvgihuceojhhohhhnfiesghhnuhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnh epieegvdeuleegudehffeifefhffdtieehueettdduleefueelvdduteeuhfelieeknecu ffhomhgrihhnpehnvgifrghrthhishgrnhhsrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivg eptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhohhhnfidomhgvshhmthhprghuthhh phgvrhhsohhnrghlihhthidqieekjeektdelgeegqddujeejheefkeduiedqjhhohhhnfi eppehgnhhurdhorhhgsehnvgifrghrthhishgrnhhsrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ib64945b7:Fastmail Original-Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 13 Nov 2022 14:48:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (xenodasein@tutanota.de's message of "Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:02:16 +0100 (CET)") Mail-Followup-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de, "xenodasein--- viaEmacs development discussions." , Eli Zaretskii , stefankangas@gmail.com X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299751 Archived-At: >>>>> xenodasein writes: > Using package.el and custom through their interfaces currently provides the > Emacs soft-entry into using packages from outside, use-package provides yet > another alternative in between them and manually doing everything. To me, use-package and package.el are mainly orthogonal: Package.el is for package management (installing, updating, removing), while use-package is for customization beyond what Customize provides -- or at least allows you to concentrate changes related to the same package in one place. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2