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From: "Gerd Möllmann" <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MPS experiment successful
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:34:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2bk67hm7s.fsf@Pro.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <867cgvho79.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 17 Apr 2024 20:51:54 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:29:53 +0200
>> 
>> As far as Emacs is is concerned, I don't have a clear picture what all
>> is currently supported in which combinations. For example, wasn't there
>> something that made Lisp_Object twice as large as a word? Not sure, but
>> I think that would make things more difficult.
>
> You mean --with-wide-int?

Yes, I think that's it. With 64 bit words, this makes Lisp_Object 128
bits, right? If that's the case, MPS won't work because if demands that
references are of word/pointer size, AFAIU.

OTOH, hm, pointers will still be of word size, so maybe one could come
up with something clever. Don't know what ATM, though, especially when
you say you are using !USE_LSB_TAG. Maybe one could make use of the GC
header somehow, if all objects have one. Or maybe one doesn't need the
tag bits at all... Except that symbols are a special case again.
Whatever... I think the least one can say is that this will not be easy.

>> I'm also currently supporting USE_LSB_TAG only. Could maybe be
>> supported, but unless someone tries...
>
> That and the previous item is a huge turn-off for me personally, FWIW,
> because I use exactly these two features.

If you want !USE_LSB_TAG, someone (tm) could implement that :-). But
it's not there now, because I didn't want to get lost in the lisp.h
macro jungle while still learning MPS. Keep it simple, and so on...



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-17 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-17 10:46 MPS experiment successful Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 12:22 ` Björn Bidar
     [not found] ` <87cyqo89gk.fsf@>
2024-04-17 12:35   ` Björn Bidar
2024-04-17 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 14:30   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 15:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 16:29       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 17:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 18:34           ` Gerd Möllmann [this message]
2024-04-17 19:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 18:41       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 19:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-17 19:51           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 23:45             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-18  4:27               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-18  5:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-18  8:57               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-18 19:18                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 23:48     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-18  4:31       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-18  9:14     ` Andrea Corallo
     [not found] ` <661fbf1d.050a0220.936ef.ee84SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-04-17 13:26   ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found] ` <661fc22e.170a0220.18fe3.c635SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-04-17 13:33   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-04-17 14:22     ` Björn Bidar
     [not found]     ` <661fdb15.5d0a0220.4bfec.1ac8SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-04-17 14:34       ` Gerd Möllmann

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