From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:23:46 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87k2qrki45.fsf@wanadoo.es> <8737xf9je9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pp0fm0j3.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3kusx8z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhb26eb9.fsf@gnu.org> <876126key3.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv1a6bfu.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1weo7u9.fsf@gnu.org> <83zizi3qr0.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhb1n81y.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8rhqzdd.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tctxy1a.fsf@T420.taylan> <87twpppgtq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87bnbxwgd3.fsf@T420.taylan> <87d1wdpf1c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87pp0duyxk.fsf@T420.taylan> <838u714897.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8rhur58.fsf@T420.taylan> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445127870 24128 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2015 00:24:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:24:30 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 18 02:24:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Znblw-0008S8-AT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 02:24:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60164 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znblv-0001hg-Do for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:24:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53204) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znbli-0001hM-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znblf-0002fm-LR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:24:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]:34961) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Znblf-0002fg-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:24:07 -0400 Original-Received: by pabws5 with SMTP id ws5so2542437pab.2 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:24:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lyfBAk7ITEmq+YN+zxhwFjN4hMlGurpuLh3Y+gnEmoQ=; b=yZkhC/pKx4cyMDr0xbA5TEBkeOqUe36Hqnw03rqU/kbSyjzvpSZ/CL+RqU/SSYlptN KoFKAKJsVbMfF17ekZnXxgDG8/Rh9SGRaaWDKv5r155E8fJvGDZDWqUk3wXF4KqwS8zV UZGd20owLENCkyiCFNQ5c5h0t3iE9cU9pWrWks9Ib5RZyQ3iVpPVlHDcP4sBezFRw9tQ uySVe4fRslcdu7X8KZkHZpAjhQJllO4s5ooJ/1AnW+5KT7ZirVIIAyLthjl9GtlpEVq/ tkWS0rZ61l0ySFWjwpucThKcaMgsIiSTzA9LWlpgzfzo6FYPlqxvOjytk30zHdqJxWN5 0KdQ== X-Received: by 10.66.131.81 with SMTP id ok17mr24893854pab.150.1445127846926; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dk2sm28540089pbd.57.2015.10.17.17.24.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 90899F459B85; Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a8rhur58.fsf@T420.taylan> ("Taylan Ulrich \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=5C\=22Bay\=C4\=B1rl\=C4\=B1\=2FKammer\=5C\=22\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:22:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191904 Archived-At: >>>>> Taylan Ulrich "Bay=C4=B1rl=C4=B1/Kammer" wr= ites: > Timing things mechanically is difficult when GuileEmacs takes so much lon= ger > to boot. If you write the timing code in Lisp itself, then the timing should only ap= ply to manipulations within the timed form. If the same code is then run on GuileEmacs and Emacs 10 times each for a large sample, with highest and low= est thrown out and the remaining averaged, it should be a pretty fair compariso= n. John