From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ASCII-only startup message? Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:05:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <567ECD8C.1070408@cs.ucla.edu> <8360zlhy7x.fsf@gnu.org> <567EE043.9020109@cs.ucla.edu> <83y4chgh5q.fsf@gnu.org> <567EED47.1090700@cs.ucla.edu> <83si2pgci8.fsf@gnu.org> <567F22B1.9040702@cs.ucla.edu> <2dc99848-b6d5-4f53-b22c-66e29d15647c@default> <444c19cb-4687-41c4-8291-481f5b5a42a1@default> <9e93866e-c6a4-42e3-b8b2-70fd6185b25e@default> <568102D0.5030707@cs.ucla.edu> <032eb0f9-1cc3-44fa-b37b-af697c8bdc86@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451372794 2761 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2015 07:06:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:06:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 29 08:06:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDoMQ-0002do-Nk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:06:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47284 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDoMP-0003Ft-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:06:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDoMM-0003Fn-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:06:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDoMJ-0005Wh-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:33666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aDoMJ-0005Wc-If for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 02:06:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDoMH-0002VS-BP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:06:13 +0100 Original-Received: from c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([68.39.146.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:06:13 +0100 Original-Received: from random832 by c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:06:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 10 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wise5Xq8c3D5B/IYWUDD7OKTDv0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197067 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > (And yes, _personally_, I would prefer that we make life easier for > users in Info and *Help* and *Messages* and ... too, if that were > still possible. But that's not what this discussion is about.) To take a step back and think about solving both problems... What about a list of characters - to include, by default, quotation marks and apostrophes and maybe a few other things like dashes - that are allowed to be silently mapped to best-fit ASCII equivalents when writing a buffer in a coding system that does not support them?