From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proper namespaces in Elisp
Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 20:29:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2a72ntuxy.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CALDnm50PwYy0HXN7WfWZyO109AcrARH0s6bkv-g-Fz-qsmSqhg@mail.gmail.com
> Anyway, are there any contemporary objections to Nic's plan, in
> particular I am interested in knowing if there any any major objections
> to Nic's reader logic:
>
> - given a string X
> - lookup X in the local obarray
> - if it exists return the symbol
> - else
> - lookup X in the global obarray
> - if it exists return the symbol
> - else
> - add the symbol to the local obarray
The problem with this approach is that the namespace management is done
by the Lisp reader, while many poeple (RMS in particular) think it
should be done by the compiler (like lexical scoping). In other words,
those people would like a mechanism to manage the names of variable
bindings not a mechanism to manage symbols.
Helmut
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-04 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-04 10:52 Proper namespaces in Elisp João Távora
2020-05-04 15:11 ` Adam Porter
2020-05-04 15:38 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-04 15:49 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 16:39 ` Adam Porter
2020-05-04 16:49 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 18:00 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-04 20:19 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-05 2:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 15:29 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-04 16:04 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 18:29 ` Helmut Eller [this message]
2020-05-04 18:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 19:02 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 19:49 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 21:59 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-04 22:34 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 10:33 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-05 10:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-05 12:50 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 13:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-05 14:03 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 14:26 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-05 21:20 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 23:37 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-06 0:15 ` João Távora
2020-05-06 7:07 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-06 19:48 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 6:13 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-05 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-05 14:07 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 4:55 ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-04 21:40 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-04 22:09 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 1:09 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-05 9:38 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 16:41 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-05 21:29 ` João Távora
2020-05-06 3:25 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-06 19:38 ` João Távora
2020-05-06 22:47 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-07 10:00 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 18:30 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-07 19:32 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 22:40 ` João Távora
2020-05-05 1:24 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-04 15:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-05 15:10 ` Tom Tromey
2020-05-05 21:30 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 2:23 ` Tom Tromey
2020-05-07 3:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 13:02 ` Tom Tromey
2020-05-07 13:48 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 18:48 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-07 20:33 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 2:56 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-08 15:56 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 17:59 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-08 18:38 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 19:37 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-07 20:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 20:42 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-07 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-07 21:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-07 21:46 ` João Távora
2020-05-07 21:56 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-07 22:12 ` João Távora
2020-05-08 18:59 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-08 19:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 0:00 ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-09 0:32 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 8:37 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 16:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 17:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 17:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 18:23 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:32 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 18:35 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:39 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 19:11 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 18:30 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 18:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 18:48 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 20:34 ` Why :USE sucks in the Common Lisp package system Michał "phoe" Herda
2020-05-09 21:47 ` João Távora
2020-05-09 21:55 ` Michał "phoe" Herda
2020-05-09 22:01 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 22:07 ` Michał "phoe" Herda
2020-05-09 22:12 ` João Távora
2020-05-10 10:10 ` Michał "phoe" Herda
2020-05-09 23:23 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-10 6:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-10 8:53 ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-10 9:59 ` Michał "phoe" Herda
2020-05-10 1:19 ` Proper namespaces in Elisp Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-08 23:07 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-08 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-09 8:12 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 12:06 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=m2a72ntuxy.fsf@gmail.com \
--to=eller.helmut@gmail.com \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).