From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CHECK_STRUCTS/dmpstruct.h mechanism is broken. Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:35:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20190228202146.GC4686@ACM> <20190228205955.GD4686@ACM> <20190410162203.GA4009@ACM> <9809d5ce-c1c4-48e9-6dac-489431b34067@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="2262"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Alan Mackenzie , Daniel Colascione , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 11 11:35:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hEW76-0000SH-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 11:35:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45027 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEW75-0001e3-Cf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEW6y-0001dl-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEW6y-0003Ja-18 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x42d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42d]:40532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEW6x-0003It-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 05:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id h4so6384201wre.7 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:35:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=YiVihz/5Uxs0Iz+aoJhdMMXQb6Ujp9Z6jB+M3i+NtA8=; b=sWOyCoUBL1LpKyw5jvBkYGl3VZhlStK+l4fWk8OInFJFxKhNHRhxSNLblwU56AoZDB zO5PUz4DtCMrV/3KAU8Y8zXovaDELZ98rSiCChXzc+6n3hvx5quT7BSL+mS5jgF6dWex kySU9vTghYZJmczqabZSBPyyBkN3vh+ms7xWm+LunAlIXr4bEOFgahjiKxA5CeIUSFUg vhtak/5G+ORTUEekyfWxpixTJNAyV2nHFzT59V/jcxy5HpvdSJ8Ah25dkgnRvcaTkzZl TSq5l7XfH2xaV57A7/37cbV8GCtCAh5sjKp9l6FYAFUZDsesf9unsGiq+9BCziOXi2Ej UZHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-followup-to :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version; bh=YiVihz/5Uxs0Iz+aoJhdMMXQb6Ujp9Z6jB+M3i+NtA8=; b=AK7oZSQ5sQt5fhu2lQ78dFq49xEVTnOvD4UJZkM5rXlFwc0ha24Uh5oA1LhqB9vdOC B3f5vg7mrnAm4hMUSaJj0xZqk+7vfRLqts4JwKMbAyE+7X+pDsD0V+/Cz0vEq5Cl39l6 COHzdzH5PUcMRZX2eLf5kwyHOuKSnaPwLpSGxdq7gsK8DQc3VKy2JMLCmMPRBu3+HHjh uMIKvrVdSbsGPNIeFj/WO6Mpzo65sloOLQXagz7w83TnmTjyGsjBXgwFoHT5ZqlzfoZT REL+HBmlvtmIfc0jSNlX1Mf/+Of5OLydIQ+IJuNUuULvdVGvfhGhKZZePIhXyIRzp8dd doLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU9FUSuHKo1ajRVFxuTTbQxQ5ErYEyztSzjd4AtpwTFcF6nlyDv AHTWGtn89JfI76hcleVQKtIhJGy7 X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyQeyNBjEkRqyzubVXjV05kuNT07jxFA9VF40itnP84EFDYmgxDQBRCYHiLIccP6YjMnb0DUA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:634c:: with SMTP id b12mr6207981wrw.203.1554975309366; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:d4bb:27ce:9e5e:258f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v190sm7040008wme.18.2019.04.11.02.35.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 11 Apr 2019 02:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <9809d5ce-c1c4-48e9-6dac-489431b34067@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:58:20 -0700") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235274 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 11:58:20 -0700, Paul Eggert said: Paul> The more gingerbread we put into the Emacs build procedure, Paul> the more it's off-putting to other potential developers (and Paul> the more work it is for us). We already have too much build Paul> overhead (starting with Autoconf! I hate Autoconf! It should Paul> go away!) Much as I dislike Autoconf, what would you have us replace it with? Robert