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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255015 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 18:03:20 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: ghe@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-dev= el@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 16:56:07 +0200 >>=20 Eli> I don't think I understand what that means (never used Gnus, sorry= ), Eli> and don't remember the details of the issue. But in general, why Eli> would someone need to set Reply-To to the list address when replyi= ng Eli> to a message from the list? It should be automatic in any sensible Eli> MUA, no? >>=20 >> They wouldn=CA=BCt, but apparently Mailman sets 'Reply-To: ghe@sdf.o= rg' on >> Gregory's behalf, which then causes Outlook to respond only to him. Eli> Then maybe Gregory should take this up with GNU folks who oversee = the Eli> mailing lists? It=CA=BCs not (directly) under their control. Eli> Or maybe how should do something to stop Mailman from mangling his Eli> From address? I don=CA=BCt think he can: that=CA=BCs under the control of whoever looks a= fter the sdf.org domain setup. Anyway, this is not really relevant to Emacs development anymore. Robert