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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292070 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: > Not "completely". `native-comp-speed' works at function per function > level. A function copiled with native-comp-speed -1 will still be > enclosed in the produced .eln file but in bytecode form. Indeed setting > it globally will have as result the production of the same .eln files > but those will include the bytecode definition of the compiled > functions. I see. Maybe this could be mentioned explicitly in the manual? What the manual says now is consistent with what you say, but when I read it I got the impression that setting 'native-comp-speed' to -1 in early-init.el would completely disable native compilation/wouldn't generate the .eln files at all.=